Final Fantasy Thread

[Pandaprewmaster325]

Final Fantasy 2 is underrated. I have been playing it again after not having played through it in probably 15 years, and it has to be in my top 3 FF games. It does something many RPGs seemingly don't do, which is make you feel the horrors and tragedy of war in the gameplay (party members dying for good, towns being destroyed off the world map, talking to the NPCs shows how it affects the common man and their responses change throughout the story if you go back to towns), while in many other RPGs, the ongoing war simply feels like a backdrop to the story and nothing more. Also, having no set class is something that I really enjoyed, you are free to train anything in that game if you are willing to put the time in to having a character master it.

I loved and still love the game , from the PS1 intro to the end it's such a tragic game.

My problem however is characters don't have much depth , guy can talk to animals , maria 6th sense isn't used much and leila switching sides from going to a pirate to a homie was quite weird.....she never talked about it again.

Ricard (gareth in PS1) is awesome i would have loved more of his dialouge worth noting freya from FF9 has some similarities with Ricard such as unable to save their home and feeling guilt over it , he's the only character i felt sad for dying.

Josef the guy who help us in the arctic tundra dies too fast for me to develop an attachment to him thus he felt a "wasted character" i would have liked more time spent with him.

Minwu (mindu in PS1) also felt like a wasted character he literally saves Firion and the homies and is missing for half of the game only to die in the magic tower , i would have liked more time spent with him.


Thats the issue with FF2 story it has everything to be a great story yet uses everything poorly , save for "gordon" that prince who is suffering a crisis over leaving his brother scott to die that character was the only character who had me interested , he goes from low self-esteem and the defeatist sentiments to a confident powerful leader who leads the rebel army to victory

Oh also i like how Firion weakness is women , he gets seduced by a lamia queen

Not to mention the emperor who appears only like 2 times the supposed "Villain"

I think the FF game that's in need of a remake is FF2

 

[shadowcat]

I loved and still love the game , from the PS1 intro to the end it's such a tragic game.

My problem however is characters don't have much depth , guy can talk to animals , maria 6th sense isn't used much and leila switching sides from going to a pirate to a homie was quite weird.....she never talked about it again.

Ricard (gareth in PS1) is awesome i would have loved more of his dialouge worth noting freya from FF9 has some similarities with Ricard such as unable to save their home and feeling guilt over it , he's the only character i felt sad for dying.

Josef the guy who help us in the arctic tundra dies too fast for me to develop an attachment to him thus he felt a "wasted character" i would have liked more time spent with him.

Minwu (mindu in PS1) also felt like a wasted character he literally saves Firion and the homies and is missing for half of the game only to die in the magic tower , i would have liked more time spent with him.


Thats the issue with FF2 story it has everything to be a great story yet uses everything poorly , save for "gordon" that prince who is suffering a crisis over leaving his brother scott to die that character was the only character who had me interested , he goes from low self-esteem and the defeatist sentiments to a confident powerful leader who leads the rebel army to victory

Oh also i like how Firion weakness is women , he gets seduced by a lamia queen

Not to mention the emperor who appears only like 2 times the supposed "Villain"

I think the FF game that's in need of a remake is FF2

I didn't find it to use anything poorly. I prefer its show don't tell approach to storytelling when compared to games that have half hour exposition dump cutscenes. I'm fine with the emperor not showing up much, it makes him feel like an evil emperor. A widely disliked political leader isn't going to show their face much for fear of assassination (this is well displayed by what happens after the tournament); I found it fitting for the character. There is a lot to be said in how Final Fantasy 2 uses the characters, and the role they play in the story itself.

 

[MasterEn]

I loved and still love the game , from the PS1 intro to the end it's such a tragic game.

My problem however is characters don't have much depth , guy can talk to animals , maria 6th sense isn't used much and leila switching sides from going to a pirate to a homie was quite weird.....she never talked about it again.

Ricard (gareth in PS1) is awesome i would have loved more of his dialouge worth noting freya from FF9 has some similarities with Ricard such as unable to save their home and feeling guilt over it , he's the only character i felt sad for dying.

Josef the guy who help us in the arctic tundra dies too fast for me to develop an attachment to him thus he felt a "wasted character" i would have liked more time spent with him.

Minwu (mindu in PS1) also felt like a wasted character he literally saves Firion and the homies and is missing for half of the game only to die in the magic tower , i would have liked more time spent with him.


Thats the issue with FF2 story it has everything to be a great story yet uses everything poorly , save for "gordon" that prince who is suffering a crisis over leaving his brother scott to die that character was the only character who had me interested , he goes from low self-esteem and the defeatist sentiments to a confident powerful leader who leads the rebel army to victory

Oh also i like how Firion weakness is women , he gets seduced by a lamia queen

Not to mention the emperor who appears only like 2 times the supposed "Villain"

I think the FF game that's in need of a remake is FF2

when does maria show off her 6th sense power. i don't remember that happening.

 

[Nickakyoin]

Final Fantasy 2 is underrated. I have been playing it again after not having played through it in probably 15 years, and it has to be in my top 3 FF games. It does something many RPGs seemingly don't do, which is make you feel the horrors and tragedy of war in the gameplay (party members dying for good, towns being destroyed off the world map, talking to the NPCs shows how it affects the common man and their responses change throughout the story if you go back to towns), while in many other RPGs, the ongoing war simply feels like a backdrop to the story and nothing more. Also, having no set class is something that I really enjoyed, you are free to train anything in that game if you are willing to put the time in to having a character master it.

It's one of those games you hate at first, but then when it clicks you love it. I may think to try to beat the NES original or the PS1 one (although those loadings are seriously dreadful). It's a game that by default you can break easily, especially if you keep levelling up the bare fists.

 

[Pandaprewmaster325]

I didn't find it to use anything poorly. I prefer its show don't tell approach to storytelling when compared to games that have half hour exposition dump cutscenes. I'm fine with the emperor not showing up much, it makes him feel like an evil emperor. A widely disliked political leader isn't going to show their face much for fear of assassination (this is well displayed by what happens after the tournament); I found it fitting for the character. There is a lot to be said in how Final Fantasy 2 uses the characters, and the role they play in the story itself.

Its not necessary to appear to Firion and the homies in person rather show us how the emperor plots certain stuff like FF4 Villain , it doesn't make for a memorable villain tbh i mean Kefka is remembered fondly why? We see him a lot throughout the game.

when does maria show off her 6th sense power. i don't remember that happening

She senses the pirate girl is up to something when you're about to board her ship , she recognizes Leon as the dark knight and Firion/guy didn't notice it until Maria pointed it out that says something about her ability to sense stuff beforehand no?

 

[MasterEn]

She senses the pirate girl is up to something when you're about to board her ship , she recognizes Leon as the dark knight and Firion/guy didn't notice it until Maria pointed it out that says something about her ability to sense stuff beforehand no?

oh, i forgot about the pirate part. i remember her noticing something about the dark knight. i figured that she sort of recognized leon's voice.
i was a bit confused since i thought the 6th sense had something to do with ghosts. i didn't remember anything about ghosts in the game's story. makes more sense that she can sense if something is off about someone.

 

[Pandaprewmaster325]

oh, i forgot about the pirate part. i remember her noticing something about the dark knight. i figured that she sort of recognized leon's voice.
i was a bit confused since i thought the 6th sense had something to do with ghosts. i didn't remember anything about ghosts in the game's story. makes more sense that she can sense if something is off about someone.

Maria is also FF first female playable character she should get more recognition and love but nah everyone thinks about Tifa

 

[shadowcat]

It's one of those games you hate at first, but then when it clicks you love it. I may think to try to beat the NES original or the PS1 one (although those loadings are seriously dreadful). It's a game that by default you can break easily, especially if you keep levelling up the bare fists.

I never hated it. It has my favorite story of the series, and is only behind 1 and 5 for me as far as gameplay goes.

 

[MasterEn]

Maria is also FF first female playable character she should get more recognition and love but nah everyone thinks about Tifa

yeah, maria is leagues better than tifa in every aspect.

 

[starseeker300]

Final Fantasy 2 is underrated. I have been playing it again after not having played through it in probably 15 years, and it has to be in my top 3 FF games. It does something many RPGs seemingly don't do, which is make you feel the horrors and tragedy of war in the gameplay (party members dying for good, towns being destroyed off the world map, talking to the NPCs shows how it affects the common man and their responses change throughout the story if you go back to towns), while in many other RPGs, the ongoing war simply feels like a backdrop to the story and nothing more. Also, having no set class is something that I really enjoyed, you are free to train anything in that game if you are willing to put the time in to having a character master it.

ff2 is a massively underrated game, minwu and ricard are a couple of my favorite ff party members and i really liked the stat growth system of the game where you used a certain stat to grow it, its kinda like working out in a sense.

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Maria is also FF first female playable character she should get more recognition and love but nah everyone thinks about Tifa

ff1 white mage: am i a joke to you

 

[Pandaprewmaster325]

ff1 white mage: am i a joke to you

I was unsure about this but now having checked it out yeah that's true

 

[Nickakyoin]

Has anyone played/beaten the mystery dungeon Chocobo Tales? Wii game. I have both it and Everybuddy but I'm always unsure which one is the best version to keep it up. I suppose the latter one probably having more content, but...what it has more than the Wii original hasn't?

Maria is also FF first female playable character she should get more recognition and love but nah everyone thinks about Tifa

Because, sadly, VII(R) is the only FF game they played and/or is adknowledged.

 

[Ikagura]

Has anyone played/beaten the mystery dungeon Chocobo Tales? Wii game. I have both it and Everybuddy but I'm always unsure which one is the best version to keep it up. I suppose the latter one probably having more content, but...what it has more than the Wii original hasn't?

Thanks for reminding me to try getting the Chocobo games, both karting and dungeon ones.

Maria is also FF first female playable character she should get more recognition and love but nah everyone thinks about Tifa

Because, sadly, VII(R) is the only FF game they played and/or is adknowledged.

Yeah, FF VII was the most popular game so I cannot blame people for remembering Tifa over the rest...

 

[Nickakyoin]

Thanks for reminding me to try getting the Chocobo games, both karting and dungeon ones.

I played both the racing games. Both are kinda bad (the PS1 for the gameplay, the Switch one for the story and microtransaction on what is essentially a full paid game. Square Enix is full of sh-). Well, you can't go wrong with the Mystery Dungeon (two for PS1 and the Wii/Everybuddy remaster)

Yeah, FF VII was the most popular game so I cannot blame people for remembering Tifa over the rest...

They can always wide their horizons since it seems it's just that and nothing else.

 

[Ikagura]

I played both the racing games. Both are kinda bad (the PS1 for the gameplay, the Switch one for the story and microtransaction on what is essentially a full paid game. Square Enix is full of sh-). Well, you can't go wrong with the Mystery Dungeon (two for PS1 and the Wii/Everybuddy remaster)

I got the Switch one for like 10 bucks and didn't see any microtransactions.

They can always wide their horizons since it seems it's just that and nothing else.

Seems like people don't want to go outside of their personal comfort zone...

 

[Nickakyoin]

I got the Switch one for like 10 bucks and didn't see any microtransactions.


Seems like people don't want to go outside of their personal comfort zone...

You got that one for a very good price, ngl. 10 bucks is definitely good. Especially since they updated the game and got rid (mostly?) of all this crap.
The game at launch initially did have them with Mythril as a value. Sure, you do get a total amount (weekly iirc?) and with that you unlock those passes that unlocked skins (and even characters...), but it's still ludicrous they made a system for a full-priced game.

And regarding this FFVII being overrated matter (which tbh at this point I would like to be the last message about it): worse for them, I guess.

 

[Ikagura]

You got that one for a very good price, ngl. 10 bucks is definitely good. Especially since they updated the game and got rid (mostly?) of all this crap.
The game at launch initially did have them with Mythril as a value. Sure, you do get a total amount (weekly iirc?) and with that you unlock those passes that unlocked skins (and even characters...), but it's still ludicrous they made a system for a full-priced game.

Sad that even Crash Nitro Fueled is filled with those...

And regarding this FFVII being overrated matter (which tbh at this point I would like to be the last message about it): worse for them, I guess.

I do agree that Square should incite people to look beyond just VII.