Final Fantasy Thread

Why the hate of yuffie guys? Not like she killed your family bro yeah i know having your magic stolen and constantly made fun of by a 16 year old tomboy when you are supposed to be a respected ex-soldier isn't exactly fun but come on she can throw stuff and has some decent gameplay value no? Also how the hell is she lolibait like what? I don't think they were thinking about it when they made her as a character.
I just like Cait Sith a lot. I've got a charm of him above my desk and I used to main him in Opera Omnia before it shut down. To me it feels like he doesn't get as much attention from the fans and Square. Yuffie is a fan-favorite for a reason, but I dunno, she just doesn't vibe with me.
 
Why the hate of yuffie guys?
Are people actually hating on her? She is likely to be left out of promotional material for being a less central character back in the day. However, her popularity has endured. She got Remake's DLC for herself, and is one of the characters recurring in Kingdom Hearts as well as the compilation.
Also how the hell is she lolibait like what?
16 years old isn't loli! However, she has no boobs, and is immature. This one is hard to call. :-p
 
i was watching a video and i saw this in it. thought it was funny:
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yeah, i know. i tend to draw rather voluptuous curvy babes and ladies and upload them to my gallery over on deviantart. you should see my drawings of ultimcia and quistis. it's just something that people will do.
Yeah that's why i take a big gasp if I'm looking for some background or pfp that contains a female character you know how it's going to look most of the time....man gamers are weird


as i mentioned before; i was playing on a playstation 1. it does not have a save state feature.
Bad luck man



she was better in crisis core, but that's it. i haven't played the remake, but i haven't heard anything bad about her in it, so maybe she has been improved in it.
Good that you reminded me of crisis core.
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I just like Cait Sith a lot. I've got a charm of him above my desk and I used to main him in Opera Omnia before it shut down. To me it feels like he doesn't get as much attention from the fans and Square. Yuffie is a fan-favorite for a reason, but I dunno, she just doesn't vibe with me.
I'm The total opposite i didnt like sith that much and hated him after he steals the black stone.

Yeah he redeems himself eventually but he still doesn't vibe with me that much.

I'm not really with in touch with the community i simply decided to be quite isolated when it comes to PS1 games i played only sharing my thoughts here i thought she was actually disliked ::dkfacepalm




Are people actually hating on her? She is likely to be left out of promotional material for being a less central character back in the day. However, her popularity has endured. She got Remake's DLC for herself, and is one of the characters recurring in Kingdom Hearts as well as the compilation.
Yeah she is less central storywise but i wasn't talking about the commercial.

Good that her popularity endured she GOATED fr she even cries when at low HP i find that funny.


16 years old isn't loli! However, she has no boobs, and is immature. This one is hard to call. :-p
Ikr i was like whaaaaa? Yuffie is a loli? , yeah i think that does her better you like her for her character not for watermelons , she is pretty annoying but that's what good about her you just wonder how the hell is she the kid of a ninja master ::huhsonic
 
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Yeah that's why i take a big gasp if I'm looking for some background or pfp that contains a female character you know how it's going to look most of the time....man gamers are weird

Bad luck man

Good that you reminded me of crisis core.
well, if it makes you feel better, i usually keep the characters clothed. only a handful of my drawings have a character showing off a little bit too much skin, and i mark those as mature on deviantart. they still have underwear on, usually just lacking a bra or top; but they are either framed so you can't see anything, or something else is covering them up, like my recent drawing of ultimecia in my gallery. but yeah, some people can go a little overboard when drawing the ladies.

it was the mid 2000's and i didn't have a computer. gaming on a computer was a bit of a weird concept to me when i was younger, so i probably wouldn't have done it anyway.

it's the best part of ff7; played through the game i think 3 times before my psp wore out.
 
well, if it makes you feel better, i usually keep the characters clothed. only a handful of my drawings have a character showing off a little bit too much skin, and i mark those as mature on deviantart. they still have underwear on, usually just lacking a bra or top; but they are either framed so you can't see anything, or something else is covering them up, like my recent drawing of ultimecia in my gallery. but yeah, some people can go a little overboard when drawing the ladies.
No I'm just bothered sometimes that anything with "female" in it suddenly turns sexual for no reason on the internet i got used to it mostly , i mean why lust over pixels and polygons when real women exist and are more detailed all around? ::smug it goes deeper than just video game characters it's a big problem regarding turning people into objects and has been debated as far as the 90s when it comes to games.



it was the mid 2000's and i didn't have a computer. gaming on a computer was a bit of a weird concept to me when i was younger, so i probably wouldn't have done it anyway.
Hell first time i gamed was PC still i game on PC but emulation is on phone , PC is the way man.

it's the best part of ff7; played through the game i think 3 times before my psp wore out
For me the best part about FF7 is.....
THE WHOLE GAME
 
No I'm just bothered sometimes that anything with "female" in it suddenly turns sexual for no reason on the internet i got used to it mostly , i mean why lust over pixels and polygons when real women exist and are more detailed all around? ::smug it goes deeper than just video game characters it's a big problem regarding turning people into objects and has been debated as far as the 90s when it comes to games.




Hell first time i gamed was PC still i game on PC but emulation is on phone , PC is the way man.


For me the best part about FF7 is.....
THE WHOLE GAME
that's just what the internet does. you'll just need to accept it. there's too much to go into on the second half of that paragraph, and it would be derailing the entire thread to go into here. we will just let that go and move on.

i got a laptop when i was about 20, and some time later, i started emulating, but even then; i preferred to play on consoles or handhelds. i prefer to have a controller in my hand rather than using a keyboard. i'm currently using a 3rd party ps3 controller to play games on my laptop.

ff7 is alright in my opinion. i'm not very big on the installments that are set in more modern or futuristic settings. glad that you like the game though. i just mainly like crisis core.
 
i got a laptop when i was about 20, and some time later, i started emulating, but even then; i preferred to play on consoles or handhelds. i prefer to have a controller in my hand rather than using a keyboard. i'm currently using a 3rd party ps3 controller to play games on my laptop.
Well it's what you are used to , personally i faint if i get a controller had to practice like 2-3 good months nearly daily on my friend PS3 when we played COD BO2 to actually get good.


ff7 is alright in my opinion. i'm not very big on the installments that are set in more modern or futuristic settings. glad that you like the game though. i just mainly like crisis core.
I like the change that went during FF7 yes i do get the change was a big leap but for a more modern device the game deserved to have a more modern setting ::winkfelix
 
Well it's what you are used to , personally i faint if i get a controller had to practice like 2-3 good months nearly daily on my friend PS3 when we played COD BO2 to actually get good.



I like the change that went during FF7 yes i do get the change was a big leap but for a more modern device the game deserved to have a more modern setting ::winkfelix
yeah, one of my first memories is playing super mario bros 1 in my living room. i've recently gotten used to using one controller for different systems on my computer. it just takes time and practice.

that is a fair argument; but ff9 is vastly superior to 7, 8, and 13; and it takes place in a medieval setting.
sooo...::cirnoshrug.
we will just agree on people will like different games for different reasons, and that's all good.
 
yeah, one of my first memories is playing super mario bros 1 in my living room. i've recently gotten used to using one controller for different systems on my computer. it just takes time and practice.
Not to forget patience.


that is a fair argument; but ff9 is vastly superior to 7, 8, and 13; and it takes place in a medieval setting.
sooo...::cirnoshrug.
we will just agree on people will like different games for different reasons, and that's all good.
While i disagree about FF9 being better than 7 but not to cause any world shattering arguments we gonna agree to disagree ::agree
 
Not to forget patience.



While i disagree about FF9 being better than 7 but not to cause any world shattering arguments we gonna agree to disagree ::agree
yeah, patience is very important. playing rpgs and strategy games have helped build that skill up for me.

counter argument:
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your move.
 
Why the hate of yuffie guys? Not like she killed your family bro yeah i know having your magic stolen and constantly made fun of by a 16 year old tomboy when you are supposed to be a respected ex-soldier isn't exactly fun but come on she can throw stuff and has some decent gameplay value no? Also how the hell is she lolibait like what? I don't think they were thinking about it when they made her as a character.
I don't really think the meme dislike of her persists that much these days. Also yea she isn't sexualized that much as far as I remember so I wouldn't rly put her in the category of unfortunately sexualized teenage characters or anything. Maybe she hits on Cloud a bit in OG? Haven't played rebirth to know what goes on there. Either way I'm sure its not /that bad/. I think people are just so tired of underage sexualization that they tend to be a bit too trigger happy in labeling any character under 18 that shows skin gooner/pedobait. It is very unfortunate!

She was likely less popular and less likely to get merch and mentions back in the day due to being a side character in the original game, and an optional one at that. Still, she is pretty prominently featured in Dirge of Cerberus so clearly by the mid-2000s the devs understood she had fans and wanted to flesh her out more. She got a whole DLC with Integrade so she is absolutely getting the respect she deserves at this point.

I love her and honestly I do think she's great fun. Always a fan of spunky and tomboyish characters, she was everything I wanted to be when I grew up (when you're 7, a 16 year old may as well be an adult to you haha). Always was a huge fan and always will be <3
 
I don't really think the meme dislike of her persists that much these days. Also yea she isn't sexualized that much as far as I remember so I wouldn't rly put her in the category of unfortunately sexualized teenage characters or anything. Maybe she hits on Cloud a bit in OG? Haven't played rebirth to know what goes on there. Either way I'm sure its not /that bad/. I think people are just so tired of underage sexualization that they tend to be a bit too trigger happy in labeling any character under 18 that shows skin gooner/pedobait. It is very unfortunate!

She was likely less popular and less likely to get merch and mentions back in the day due to being a side character in the original game, and an optional one at that. Still, she is pretty prominently featured in Dirge of Cerberus so clearly by the mid-2000s the devs understood she had fans and wanted to flesh her out more. She got a whole DLC with Integrade so she is absolutely getting the respect she deserves at this point.

I love her and honestly I do think she's great fun. Always a fan of spunky and tomboyish characters, she was everything I wanted to be when I grew up (when you're 7, a 16 year old may as well be an adult to you haha). Always was a huge fan and always will be <3
i've always got the impression that yuffie and vincent were late additions to the game, considering that they are not present in the ending cgi cutscenes, which is aided by the fact that they are optional to recruit and don't add much to the story overall. some lore is added with them, but nothing earth-shattering.
but considering that we have a completely different protagonist for the game compared to the early stuff being worked on for the snes version, i think the time constraint that the game was under hindered the full potential the game could have had.
 
i've always got the impression that yuffie and vincent were late additions to the game, considering that they are not present in the ending cgi cutscenes, which is aided by the fact that they are optional to recruit and don't add much to the story overall. some lore is added with them, but nothing earth-shattering.
but considering that we have a completely different protagonist for the game compared to the early stuff being worked on for the snes version, i think the time constraint that the game was under hindered the full potential the game could have had.
Oh most certainly! I wouldn't be surprised if they outright admit that Yuffie and Vincent were late additions in the Ultimanium (rly need to pick those up at some point). It's also probably why the decision to have Vincent get a spin-off game with Yuffie as a very prominent side character was made. Couldn't flesh em out right in the main game so may as well give em their due in a spin-off!
 
Oh most certainly! I wouldn't be surprised if they outright admit that Yuffie and Vincent were late additions in the Ultimanium (rly need to pick those up at some point). It's also probably why the decision to have Vincent get a spin-off game with Yuffie as a very prominent side character was made. Couldn't flesh em out right in the main game so may as well give em their due in a spin-off!
it's pretty plausible. a long time ago i was reading some fun facts on the wiki, and apparently cloud was going to have black hair, but was given yellow hair because that shows off the graphical prowess of the psx, which is also the same reason tidus is blonde in ffx, and why terra is blonde in dissidia alongside ignus in the game.
you were supposed to play as a detective in the snes version, cloud, tifa and barret were supposed to be antagonists who might have joined up with the main character later.
the superbosses, the emerald and ruby weapons, i think it was, weren't not in the japanese version of the first release of the game; they were exclusive to america until the international re-release.
aerith was meant to be playable for nearly the full game, since there is code and dialog for her to appear in areas and scenes long after she is dead.
three years of work, restarted twice, started with the snes, then n64 and then finally psx.
there's no telling what kind of game we would have gotten if it stayed on just one system from start to finish.
i'm quite surprised that the game works and functions as well as it does. it had about as much real development time as a nes game.
 
I don't really think the meme dislike of her persists that much these days. Also yea she isn't sexualized that much as far as I remember so I wouldn't rly put her in the category of unfortunately sexualized teenage characters or anything. Maybe she hits on Cloud a bit in OG? Haven't played rebirth to know what goes on there. Either way I'm sure its not /that bad/. I think people are just so tired of underage sexualization that they tend to be a bit too trigger happy in labeling any character under 18 that shows skin gooner/pedobait. It is very unfortunate!

She was likely less popular and less likely to get merch and mentions back in the day due to being a side character in the original game, and an optional one at that. Still, she is pretty prominently featured in Dirge of Cerberus so clearly by the mid-2000s the devs understood she had fans and wanted to flesh her out more. She got a whole DLC with Integrade so she is absolutely getting the respect she deserves at this point.

I love her and honestly I do think she's great fun. Always a fan of spunky and tomboyish characters, she was everything I wanted to be when I grew up (when you're 7, a 16 year old may as well be an adult to you haha). Always was a huge fan and always will be <3
Yeah she is likeable for being such a scoundrel , her animation both winning animation and weakened animation are so funny it captures her character so well.

I didn't play dirge of cerberus but glad a game exists where we get to see to see more of Vincent and yuffie.

Tomboy characters always balance things out between normal girls and that one outlier
 
Oh yeah seer is pretty funny i used to watch his Diablo 2 videos dunno why turned to some turn based games when he was on a quest to find the best Action RPG? Looks like he figured it was Diablo 2....


Btw how often you use haste/slow guys? Are you a fan of crowd control spells?
 
Oh yeah seer is pretty funny i used to watch his Diablo 2 videos dunno why turned to some turn based games when he was on a quest to find the best Action RPG? Looks like he figured it was Diablo 2....


Btw how often you use haste/slow guys? Are you a fan of crowd control spells?
it depends on the game and what version of it. ff4 for the psx had me convinced that buffs and debuffs didn't work and were just a waste of time. i didn't know back then that was the hard version of the game, so spells missing so often was supposed to happen. in other versions of the game, i use them and in the other games as well. usually on strong enemies or bosses.
it depends on the spell. if it's strong enough to defeat the enemy part in 1-2 turns, then yeah; they are alright. so far, the best one that i've used is bio from ff4. it's power is on par with the level 2 elemental spells, it's non-elemental so not much can resist it and it inflects sap on its target, which steadily drains hp. it also doesn't cost too mp much to cast it.
 
it depends on the game and what version of it. ff4 for the psx had me convinced that buffs and debuffs didn't work and were just a waste of time. i didn't know back then that was the hard version of the game, so spells missing so often was supposed to happen. in other versions of the game, i use them and in the other games as well. usually on strong enemies or bosses.
it depends on the spell. if it's strong enough to defeat the enemy part in 1-2 turns, then yeah; they are alright. so far, the best one that i've used is bio from ff4. it's power is on par with the level 2 elemental spells, it's non-elemental so not much can resist it and it inflects sap on its target, which steadily drains hp. it also doesn't cost too mp much to cast it.
Lol nah they do work missing in Turn based games is a huge middle finger for me like that's a turn or a move GONE no damage or anything helpful by that team member.

I didn't use poisonous spells that often despite them countering giant type enemies i just relied on elemental stuff , btw how useful you think silence is? Being able to make enemy unable to cast spells is huge , i don't recall it working on bosses tho usually buff/debuff spells are most useful in long fights like boss fights it's also where as you said poison is best casted.
 
Lol nah they do work missing in Turn based games is a huge middle finger for me like that's a turn or a move GONE no damage or anything helpful by that team member.

I didn't use poisonous spells that often despite them countering giant type enemies i just relied on elemental stuff , btw how useful you think silence is? Being able to make enemy unable to cast spells is huge , i don't recall it working on bosses tho usually buff/debuff spells are most useful in long fights like boss fights it's also where as you said poison is best casted.
well, ff4 on the psx is the hard version of the same game on the snes version. they made versions, easy type and hard type; and they were not lying.

i've noticed for the most part that debuffs really aren't worth it. the enemies can either dodge it too often or are immune to it; and in some cases where i've seen them land on both regular enemies and bosses, it doesn't hinder the opponent. i remember that there was a boss in a game who could be hit with silence, but it was a pure melee fighter, so that was a rather pointless weakness to give to it.

i don't mind bosses having immunities but they should get them as you progress through the game. weaker bosses at the start shouldn't resist the spells but endgame ones should have one weakness to a debuff if none at all. ffx is so far the only game in the series where i can recall bosses being able to have weakened defenses, lowered magic power, silenced, poisoned and slow actually worked. i only learned about 2 days ago that you can inflect some status effects like that to bosses in ff4 from the seer video. i tried before on several of them only to see nothing happen.
 

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