FF7 Remake, is it what you wanted ?

[moonbits]

The combat in the FF7 Remake felt like it was trying to be a watered down version of something like Dark Souls

that's the weirdest take I've read so far about this game, congrats.

 

[Cantarella]

I didn't imagine anything, why are you being rude?

You did imagine something, because your reply was totally unrelated to what I wrote. I'll cop to being catty, but what's super rude is to put words in peoples' mouth, which you are still doing, except now in a more hyper-aggressive way. What I said is that the stuff you described happened in the original. I feel like the fact that we're resorting to google's AI that regularly tries to get me killed in FFV in order to 'prove' what happened is the last thing that needs to be said on that point. There really isn't anything for me to respond to because you've written another rebuttal aimed at a person that isn't here. Your last paragraph doesn't even disagree with me from what I can tell. Let's just drop it because clearly the airwaves are muddled.

I was in the middle of playing Dark Souls for the first time when I tried the FF7 Remake demo. The combat in the FF7 Remake felt like it was trying to be a watered down version of something like Dark Souls and by the end of the demo I really hadn't enjoyed much of my time playing it so I never bothered getting the full version or the sequel. FF7 was never really my favourite Final Fantasy game as it was. I much preferred FFIX out of the ps1 Final Fantasy games and I still prefer the older snes and nes games over FF7.

How do you think the combat is similar?

 

[_-_AceDragon_-_]

FF7 remake and rebirth butchered the game. It's nothing more than a high budget fan service. Combat was super fun, to give the game some credit. But despite the graphics being obviously incomparably better, the game just isn't as good on nearly every level. I won't list everything here because the post will be too long.

Without going into specifics, it's just artistically much weaker. The pacing and flow, the dialogue, the addition of stupid side quests. People who claim they like FF7 original but think remake is better, didn't actually like the original, coz everything good about it just went over their heads.

Here's a great example of one aspect they screwed up: Sephiroth. Yeah only the greatest villain in video game history, and pretty much why we all loved original.

Listen I enjoyed remake and the fan service is appreciated. But it's just not as solid as the original. I'd argue that it gives away too much too soon, pacing is poor etc etc. Sephiroth is introduced in original by blood trails in shinra building. Eerie music. A giant sword through President shinra. Man what a game... Remake literally shows you Sephy in the first 10 mins... Randomly in a backstreet somewhere ... It didn't have 1% of the impact the original did. It FULLY relies on the fact we know who he is and played original. It's fantastic service. That simply isn't how you introduce a great villain

 

[Tonberry]

FF7 remake and rebirth butchered the game. It's nothing more than a high budget fan service. Combat was super fun, to give the game some credit. But despite the graphics being obviously incomparably better, the game just isn't as good on nearly every level. I won't list everything here because the post will be too long.

Without going into specifics, it's just artistically much weaker. The pacing and flow, the dialogue, the addition of stupid side quests. People who claim they like FF7 original but think remake is better, didn't actually like the original, coz everything good about it just went over their heads.

Here's a great example of one aspect they screwed up: Sephiroth. Yeah only the greatest villain in video game history, and pretty much why we all loved original.

Listen I enjoyed remake and the fan service is appreciated. But it's just not as solid as the original. I'd argue that it gives away too much too soon, pacing is poor etc etc. Sephiroth is introduced in original by blood trails in shinra building. Eerie music. A giant sword through President shinra. Man what a game. Remake didn't have 1% of the impact the original did.

I was really disappointed with how much they showed off Sephiroth in the first part. Removed so much of what made him so scary and mysterious.

 

[Cantarella]

the medium-sized frog should have been the one to kill sephiroth in the mako reactor.

 

[Bomberman]

It is way better than the original to me. I still need to play rebirth.

Maybe the original had a bad translation but the remake absolutely triumphs in its dialogue and characters.

I never beat the original FF7 (I got to Disc 2 on my PSP) but I will say it has more environmental variety and a more open structure obviously which I do prefer.

I just think the remake knocked the visuals, dialogue, and combat out of the park. I usually prefer turn based to action RPGs but I enjoyed my time with FFVIIR part 1... I enjoyed that mini game in the Integrade DLC too.

 

[Graw]

How do you think the combat is similar?

I dunno this was a few years ago now. That was just my impression while I was playing it.

 

[sun0wl]

Listen I enjoyed remake and the fan service is appreciated. But it's just not as solid as the original. I'd argue that it gives away too much too soon, pacing is poor etc etc. Sephiroth is introduced in original by blood trails in shinra building. Eerie music. A giant sword through President shinra. Man what a game... Remake literally shows you Sephy in the first 10 mins... Randomly in a backstreet somewhere ... It didn't have 1% of the impact the original did. It FULLY relies on the fact we know who he is and played original. It's fantastic service. That simply isn't how you introduce a great villain

all I wanted in the remake was a proper modern version of the creepy Shinra tower bit and I distinctly recall how it utterly failed to recreate/re-envision this section of the original game. People say FFVII hasn't aged well, but the feeling of discovering that trail of destruction was, for all its bells and whistles and ray-tracing, totally missing in Remake and I mourned it real hard.

I was really disappointed with how much they showed off Sephiroth in the first part. Removed so much of what made him so scary and mysterious.

THIS

Don't get me wrong; I didn't necessarily want a 1:1 remake of the original game, despite how much I loved/still love it. I would have been perfectly pleased as punch with a good, well-directed, well-written, well-paced and fun modern AA/AAA game in the key of OG FFVII. I think the hard misses like the Shinra tower experience and the loss of the Sephiroth Mystery led the remakes to fail to capture the same feelings and hit the same emotional notes as the original, and that's what really killed them for me.

That and the incredibly annoying deluge of systems and useless new NPCs who add nothing to the story/world in Rebirth. God, I hate Chadly.

Tl;dr I hate Tetsuya Nomura, he should have never been allowed out of the back seat.

 

[_-_AceDragon_-_]

Seb is so burnt up about ff7r, it's actually funny. I feel the same way about the game generally. The melancholy music in the background and what could have been....

 

[sun0wl]

Seb is so burnt up about ff7r, it's actually funny. I feel the same way about the game generally. The melancholy music in the background and what could have been....

I didn't think it was possible to be more disappointed in FF7R but now I am. I really can't un-think about this. Thanks

 

[_-_AceDragon_-_]

I didn't think it was possible to be more disappointed in FF7R but now I am. I really can't un-think about this. Thanks

Same happened to me, so I thought let me get everyone else to join...

 

[Leon]

I despise the ff7 "remake" (more like a psuedo sequel that follows the same path) so much that while i have to play through rebirth (for a friend) but i'm having trouble even getting the will to start it, the gameplay is bad, the story is bad, literally everything about it makes me sick.

 

[Nidoking's icon Nidoking Nidoking]

I hate the transition from turn-based combat in the Final Fantasy franchise in general, and I was never much of a Final Fantasy VII fan. So... it's far from made for me.

 

[Turbo Kid]

No, because it's not FF 7. I don't hate it, but the fan fiction story and the gameplay that doesn't respect the original at all was disappointing. The last FF game I truly enjoyed was XIII despite its flaws. FF XV had its moments, but overall was disappointing.

I just don't understand what they are doing with the franchise anymore.

 

[qw90700]

I just don't understand what they are doing with the franchise anymore.

Well obviously they only care to milk it dry to the end.

lolol

 

[Big Finger Jim]

I ain't the biggest fan of the original , but I fucking struggled getting through the remake. It is the most padded out story in any game I've ever played, even more than Yakuza 5. That entire chapter dedicated to getting that silver haired placeholder's charm back in the sewers was just nothing, and I would excuse shit like that if the game was fun to play, but it wasn't. Genuinely, at least half of my problems with the game would be resolved if Square didn't keep sucking Nomura's cock and signing him on to EVERYTHING Final Fantasy. Jesus Christ.

I did enjoy Intergrade, though. Combat was actually decent.

Also, Barret in Remake, and presumably Rebirth, is the best character in this entire franchise.

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Lightning returns is as good as majoras mask for anyone that actually gave the game a decent chance

Post automatically merged: Yesterday at 5:50 AM

Lightning returns is as good as majoras mask for anyone that actually gave the game a decent chance, maybe not as groundbreaking as MM, but thats a given though.

I always wanted to try to play the game, I abandoned it when I learned of the time limit, tunrs out it's not bad at all and quite generous.

All in all lightning returns is a majoras mask/valkyrie profile game where lightning is the Valkyrie, it's pretty great so long as you aren't expecting a final fantasy game and I think the clue is in the name being ligtning returns and not final fantasy 13-3, the dev really just wanted to make a valyrie profile game starring lightning, shameless

Man, you must REEEEEALLY hate Majora's Mask.