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The Dark Corners of the Earth article got me back in the Lovecraft mindset, so I figured I'd try to get a discussion thread going of cosmic horror stories/novels, what have you (also, I just want to talk about Lovecraft). Doesn't have to be specifically his work as long as its a horror story of the 'cosmic and spooky' variety, or even just discussion of the genre itself.

I'll start with a little mini-list of my top three Lovecraft stories, this time actually ranked in order for once. I'm going to try and keep them brief, but you know what to expect from me; feel free to skip them of course if you just want to post your own stuff.

1. The Whisperer in Darkness
It's a pretty close tie between this and number two over which comes out on top, but I think Whisperer just barely clinches out my number one. I love the setting of a spooky old New England forest and the isolated Akeley house, with his great descriptive work about it through-out, and the 'twist' so to speak at the end is really well executed. Its I think his greatest 'mood' piece, with real tension building up as the story goes on, through more of a focus on the characters for once compared to his usual impersonal focus. He often used characters just as framing devices more or less, but in this he spends a good amount of time with Wilmarth describing his reactions to what he was reading in the letters from poor old Akeley, and of course the last 40% of the story or so is directly told from Wilmarth's perspective which was again fairly rare for Lovecraft. It really helps add some atmosphere to this one by grounding it more onto the characters over the grander cosmic stuff, though they obviously do come out. This was one of the stories that fleshed out Nyarlathotep after only being described vaguely in the real short form story called the same thing, added in the Mi-go to the cosmic races (this time being described as crab-like rather than fungi, weirdly enough), and in one of the best scenes in the book also created 'the black goat of the woods with the thousand young', Shub-Niggurath (la! Shub-Niggurath!) which is some amazing imagery.

2. Call Of Cthulhu
Oh yeah, the one that started the whole thing. I think this story is the best example of Lovecraft's work, for both good and bad. It's some of his greatest descriptive work which was likely his greatest strength of course, and the passage describing Cthulhu awakening in the climax is one of my favourite paragraphs of writing ever. "The Thing cannot be described- there is no language for such abysms of shrieking and immemorial lunacy, such eldritch contradictions of all matter, force, and cosmic order. A mountain walked or stumbled. God! What wonder that across the earth a great architect went mad...". It's some some a great example of some of his weaker writing aspects, given that the whole thing is so very very dry and 80% of it is the academic main character reading and summarizing things other people wrote, and not a single character ever actually has a personality to them other than their title and role. I think it's a testament to just how good of a descriptive writer he was that he elevated so many of what would be fairly rote, boring stories by any other writer into the originators of the genre, owed to his start as a poet.

3. The Rats in The Walls
This was I think the first Lovecraft story I read, so perhaps nostalgia is why I put it so high. It's a really simple one, but it's just in his descriptions and mood that I think it holds it's own across his stories. This is one of his most personally focused ones which probably helps; the main character doesn't have much personality, but keeping things entirely in first person with him grounds it a little bit and there's not a single time he goes off for seven paragraphs paraphrasing something someone else wrote. The ending is doing a lot of heavy lifting here, as it's one of my other personal favourite passages in any story; when the main character finally loses his mind (one of the only times a Lovecraft MC truly does) at the end after the reveal, the stream of consciousness raving as he completely devolves into some primal state is so beautifully done. "Why shouldn’t rats eat a de la Poer as a de la Poer eats forbidden things? 'Sblood, thou stinkard, I’ll learn ye how to gust! Ungl...ungl..rrrlh...chchch..."
 
I really enjoyed Song of Horror and it most definitely counts as a Lovecraftian game. Even though the perma death mechanic can be tricky and annoying for some people, I think it really enchances the horror and makes the game stand out from the crowd. For those who can appeciate it. Also you can listen to what is going on behind the door before opening it which make you paranoid about every little sound, because opening the wrong door can (and will) get your character killed. Its plot is cool as well, I like the idea of a cursed music box that drives everyone who hears its melody insane. Couple puzzles towards the end were a bit too confusing and context sensitive but overall it was a great experience for me.

Edit: Goddamn I didnt see this was about books, lol. I'm sorry, just ignore my message :loldog
 
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OMG! What cosmic horrors have I awoken? ;D

I'll look through my endless library in a while, but there's something that immediately comes to mind (weird as it is):

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Did you know that Cthulhu was going to be in Digimon? They produced enough material to tease him, then steered clear of that plotline entirely.

It's like... yeah.
 
Edit: Goddamn I didnt see this was about books, lol. I'm sorry, just ignore my message :loldog
It's cool man, I can see why someone would make that mistake. Funnily enough I wanted to make this a cosmic horror general thread to cover video games and stuff too, but I wasn't sure what section to put it in so I just made it a book thread.

I recommend anyone that enjoys cosmic horror to read Hellstar Remina ASAP.
I've heard of this, it's a Junji Ito manga right? I've only read Uzumaki, so maybe I'll check this out.

Did you know that Cthulhu was going to be in Digimon?
That's so bizarre, that's hilarious. What even made them want to tease that in the first place? I'm imaging Cthulhu throwing fists with that bunny-with-an-arm-gun guy (I know so very little about Digimon) and it's so beautiful.
 
That's so bizarre, that's hilarious. What even made them want to tease that in the first place? I'm imaging Cthulhu throwing fists with that bunny-with-an-arm-gun guy (I know so very little about Digimon) and it's so beautiful.
There's actually a very Lovecraftian reason for it: following the overwhelming success of the first season, the lead writer/creator of Digimon left the show in protest of a sequel being made, understanding that he had already told (and wrapped up) the story he wanted to tell, so the network hired two new faces as creative leads and they kept a bitter fight for control throughout production, with one of them aiming for an offbeat and darker take on the series (which would later materialize on Tamers, the third series) -- the "Dark Ocean" storyline came directly from these efforts and was never touched again after being teased for a few minutes.

Cthulhumon was not appeased :r
 
There's actually a very Lovecraftian reason for it: following the overwhelming success of the first season, the lead writer/creator of Digimon left the show in protest of a sequel being made, understanding that he had already told (and wrapped up) the story he wanted to tell, so the network hired two new faces as creative leads and they kept a bitter fight for control throughout production, with one of them aiming for an offbeat and darker take on the series (which would later materialize on Tamers, the third series) -- the "Dark Ocean" storyline came directly from these efforts and was never touched again after being teased for a few minutes.

Cthulhumon was not appeased :r
That's awesome, you learn something new every day.

I was reminded of this comedy rpg games:
Cthulhu Saves the World and
Cthulhu Saves Christmas
:loldog
The first one was great, I remember playing it way back on my 360. I wonder if you can download it from somewhere else now, or if it's still on the Xbox Marketplace.
 
My favorite kind of cosmic horror is the Ironic one

Basically Humans being the lovecraftian being to lesser beings, our most common trash being seen by say mice or bugs as some sort of Eldritch artifact always put in perspective the meaning of Lovecraftian (A movie that exemplifies this is Secret of NIHM)
 
My favorite kind of cosmic horror is the Ironic one

Basically Humans being the lovecraftian being to lesser beings, our most common trash being seen by say mice or bugs as some sort of Eldritch artifact always put in perspective the meaning of Lovecraftian (A movie that exemplifies this is Secret of NIHM)
You reminded me of the game "Beyond The Edge Of Owlsgard"
 
Can you truly call something a cosmic horror if it doesn't have a dash of racism? /j
It's unfortunate the genre did start with Lovecraft being a particularly pronounced racist, arguably even for his time. It is what it is; at least he turned around near the end of his life according to a lot of his personal letters and friends from the time.
 
I first got into Lovecraft thanks to the 1st edition of Deities and Demigods for Advanced Dungeons and Dragons (The first and original edition of D&D...I think). They had an entry for Cthulhu mythos which was removed in the following editions but the pictures and descriptions were mind blowing. I wanted to lead my sister and brother into a cave where Shub Nigurrath was lurking in a D&D campaign but it never came to fruition...they'd probably die pretty fast.

I've collected a number of books and anthologies for H.P. Lovecraft after that. It certainly taught me a lot of interesting words I never knew existed and umm...improved my vocabulary? - i.e. I smuggled the word "Eidolon" taken shamelessly from Lovecraft in my school essays just to spiff them up.
 
True cosmic horror is so rare because it's something that's unstoppable. We're so beneath what ever this cosmic force is, even if we can comprehend it. We are powerless to interact with it.
But 99% of creatives feel obliged to somehow write in some way to defeat this force. A happy ending. Thus making it just a challenge to overcome. How mundane.
As a result, Lovecraft is still king.

G'kar: What is this?
Catherine: An Ant.
G'Kar: I have just picked it up on the tip of my glove. If I put it down again and it asks another ant, "What was that?" …how would it explain?
There are things in the universe billions of years older than either of our races. They are vast, timeless. And if they are aware of us at all, it is as little more than ants…and we have as much chance of communicating with them as an ant has with us. We know. We've tried. And we've learned we can either stay out from underfoot, or be stepped on.
[Babylon 5, Signs & Portents]

But I do have a weakness for how Cosmic Horror was portrayed in a unlikely children's show.
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The Beast stands revered, and it was truly unstoppable
Sure the show gave it minions which appeared to be defeatable in its first season then the show's writers became aware of its impending cancelation at the end of the second season.
The gloves came off.
I can't think of a better representation of cosmic horror in visual media than the Beast.

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A N I M O R P H S
If you know, you know. We're better off not knowing what awaits after death.
It knows you're a protagonist, revel in your ignorance as it is the only bliss you will ever know.
 
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Big reply chain coming up, hot off the presses;

Basically Humans being the lovecraftian being to lesser beings, our most common trash being seen by say mice or bugs as some sort of Eldritch artifact always put in perspective the meaning of Lovecraftian (A movie that exemplifies this is Secret of NIHM)
That's true, I never really thought of that before. Wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't a purposeful element of Secret of NIHM given how dark that story is for an animated kids movie.

I first got into Lovecraft thanks to the 1st edition of Deities and Demigods for Advanced Dungeons and Dragons (The first and original edition of D&D...I think). They had an entry for Cthulhu mythos which was removed in the following editions but the pictures and descriptions were mind blowing.
My dad had the same first edition printing of the Deities book too, probably my first exposure to the Lovecraft stuff as well. AD&D wasn't the original version of D&D, but it was close enough; it's a whole confusing thing. They ended up getting slapped with some legal threats from Chaosium who own the Cthulhu mythos gaming rights, and removed all mentions of it sidestep a potential legal battle. They did the same a few years before with a bunch of Tolkien references as well to dodge a lawsuit.

True cosmic horror is so rare because it's something that's unstoppable. We're so beneath what ever this cosmic force is, even if we can comprehend it. We are powerless to interact with it.
But 99% of creatives feel obliged to somehow write in some way to defeat this force. A happy ending. Thus making it just a challenge to overcome. How mundane.
As a result, Lovecraft is still king.
I entirely agree. Cosmic horror to me is defined by the either a profound hopelessness from the characters against whatever spooky thing is involved, and even better if the character or the entity/whatever aren't even aware of one another or directly interact given how grand the scale difference is. The scale juxtaposition is integral. Also entirely agree about the happy ending stuff; it's more acceptable if it was at least a great sacrifice kinda thing. This is coincidentally why I don't like the Dunwich Horror, considering in ends with a wizard battle that comes out of nowhere and they entirely defeat the big bad despite that not making sense.

The Beast stands revered
A N I M O R P H S
You had me at Shadow Raiders, the Animorphs was just icing on the cake. Animorphs had no right to be as metal as it was; the Andalite Chronicles taught me about the horrors of war as a kid, which is an insane sentence to say. And yeah, both are pretty good examples of how to do a 'dumbed down' for lack of a better term cosmic horror considering they were kids franchises.

To entice people to read Remina if they haven't already:
That seems sick, checking it out for sure at some point.
 
You had me at Shadow Raiders, the Animorphs was just icing on the cake. Animorphs had no right to be as metal as it was; the Andalite Chronicles taught me about the horrors of war as a kid, which is an insane sentence to say. And yeah, both are pretty good examples of how to do a 'dumbed down' for lack of a better term cosmic horror considering they were kids franchises.
Man, you have no idea how obscenely happy it makes me to meet some one else who not only remembers Shadow Raiders but appreciates aspects of it for being better written than some "horror" novels.

Honestly Cosmic horror "dumbed down for kids" plays to the genres strengths.
You're not supposed to be able to understand/interact with a cosmic horror. So in the context of a children's series, which 9-times-out-of-10 has to abide to strict guidelines.
The characters & setting aren't allowed to even come close to comprehending the horror.
If done right, as the Beast was. You were watching a genre-mash up where the kids show is slowly eroded away when faced with absolute oblivion.
Reboot hits a similar tone in its third season, same writers & animation studio.
It's not a cosmic or eldritch threat but it presents the meta horror of "End of Episode status quo? That safety net is gone." Highly recommend.

I also need to gush over Blokk, because when else will I have the chance to do so. You remember, the big dumb lumbering comedic relief villain who's responsible for 2/3rd's of the Beasts apparent defeats in the show...
Not being incompetent. He was just awaiting orders. And Blokk never fails to accomplish an order.
Is writing we need more off. Villain's rarely maintain their menace throughout media. Fewer manage to heighten it upon command.

As for Animorphs, I read the whole series using my phone during the pandemic in-between shifts at an intensive care ward. Holy heck it's a shining example of Young Adult literature, as in its for all ages, and as such it's story can go anywhere.
Honestly freaked me out more than both Stephen King & Clive Barker because the journey from goofy kids story to a depressingly realistic depiction of government subversion, hopeless war and


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10/10
 
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