Character Interpretation: Optimus Prime

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TL;DR I ramble about fictional robots to share a snapshot of my history with the genre and to provide context for my interpretation of Optimus Prime's characterization as an outside spectator. WHARGARBL.

Growing up, I was not a fan of Transformers. My first—and at the time, only—experience with giant, cartoon robots had been airings of Mobile Suit Gundam Wing on Toonami. The plot was heavy on story and in-universe politics, so my little-kid-brain dismissed it and the giant robot genre as boring. This logical fallacy deprived me of any Transformers-related nostalgia I could have had because I ended up avoiding the Generation One show like the plague, thinking it was going to be just like Gundam Wing: lots of humans standing around and talking with minimal giant robots. My faulty conclusions would later be laid to rest with my introduction to The Big O on Adult Swim, a stylish, neo-noir mystery set in a futuristic dystopia where androids and mecha (called "Megadeus" in-universe) are commonplace.​

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R. Dorothy Wayneright looks on at the megadeus Big O

Around three years ago, a close friend who is a die-hard Transformers fan discovered my utter lack of appreciation for peak, mid-80s toy commercials disguised as cartoons. To remedy this travesty, he invited me to play a new game he'd purchased that promised to be a love letter to Generation One, his favorite iteration of the series: Transformers: Devastation.
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Optimus tries to menace Devastator with a peashooter

Transformers: Devastation is a 2015 hack n' slash that retells the story of the G1 Autobots crash-landing on Earth and their subsequent conflict with the Decepticons. While there are examples of inspiration from older Transformers media (e.g. the IDW series, Combiner Wars, the G1 cartoon), the plot was doing its own thing; developer Platinum Games clearly wanted to take an old story and inject it with new life. The game's cliffhanger ending contains an unfulfilled sequel hook that sets up Nova Prime as a potential new villain, corrupted by Unicron to sow chaos across the galaxy. Unfortunately, publisher Activision chose not to renew their licensing agreement with Hasbro, causing digital copies of the game to disappear from all distribution platforms, spiking the price of physical PS4 hard copies, and giving the potential sequel a permanent place in Concept Purgatory. The game also earned a lukewarm reception among players who weren't charmed by the 80s-era feel, with some going as far as to say that Devastation was Platinum Games' worst product.
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eBay is the worst thing to happen to games since horse armor
Despite its flaws and the flack it got, I love Transformers: Devastation. It's a fun, colorful 3D beat-'em-up with an excellent voice cast, charming cel-shaded graphics, an engaging story, and a mecha T-Rex (I was so fucking hyped when I unlocked Grimlock, you have no idea). It was my introduction to the Transformers IP, Optimus Prime, and the beginning of my fascination with Transformers-flavored storylines.

Like a majority of the media covering Megatron's beef with Optimus Prime, Devastation's narrative explores the moral and philosophical differences that cause these two titans to clash. Optimus Prime is presented in all his magnanimous glory: champion of the weak, liberator of the sentient, the ideal leader. While that's generally not the kind of character profile I gravitate towards, Optimus serves his role perfectly well: he leads and inspires with his iconic Peter Cullen impersonation. I was content with the old-but-gold, good vs evil theme. There doesn't seem to be much reason to consider Megatron's viewpoint while he makes preparations to terraform Earth and snarks at Starscream.

Optimus and Megatron catch up before the final battle at the game's climax, explaining their motives to each other in an attempt to corrode the other's resolve. I was already more than familiar with Optimus' stance, so I patiently waited to hear what kind of nonsense Megs was going to drop as justification for humanity's annihilation. No one was more surprised than I was when I heard his piece and realized that Megatron, despite his continuity-blind hatred of humans, was the most humanlike character in the game. There's an exchange between the two that's my favorite part of the script and manages to succinctly sum up their conflicting philosophies:
Megatron: "Why must you always interfere?"​
Optimus: "You would place Cybertron at the center of the universe."
M: "Cybertron is the center of my universe. How is it not at the heart of yours?"
O: "Cybertron is about all life. Destruction to keep Cybertron on life support--there must be another way."
M: "Flesh isn't life. Servos, gyros and fuel--this is where life comes from! You're defending--by-product--at best! I will restore Cybertron and retake the galaxy!"
O: "That ambition will be your end."

Megatron has his fair share of 'he's just nuts' depictions. What I haven't seen in other media source is Megatron potentially seeing Optimus as a kind of eco-terrorist. Flesh isn't life. How Megatron views humanity is akin to how we view livestock: a lesser species to be exploited for resources. Sure, cows are alive and all but they're just not as valuable as human life. And why wouldn't he think that way? From technology, science, and space travel to raw physical ability, Cybertronians are superior to humans. From his point of view, Optimus is decrying the removal of chickens for a space meant to become a new Cybertron. Their new home.

This brings me to my final thoughts on Optimus himself. The biggest hurdle for me when it comes to connecting with his character is that he's an ideal wearing a metal person-suit. He's not so much a character as he is a mouthpiece for a moral system that specifically benefits humans in a story about robots trying to survive the desctruction of their homeworld. I don't agree with everything Megatron does but I can understand why he does them. When it comes to Optimus giving his all to humanity, even to the detriment of his Autobots and himself, I can't help but see his motives and actions as bizarre and foreign.

Living beings have selfish needs. It's not a bug, it's a feature. Morals are how we balance our own needs with the needs of others in order to maintain social harmony. Optimus has no balance, at least as far as I've seen. He jumps from championing one great cause to another, exemplifying the trope of a Hero who resists fulfilling their own deepest desire due to fear of punishment or corruption, except Optimus will not be caught lacking. It's this stringent adherence to heroic purity that makes Optimus come across as the most inhuman character on the roster. And maybe that's by design. But it's bothered me as long as I've known this character.

If you managed to get to the end of this spontaneous rant, I humbly thank you! Please let me know how you feel about Optimus, my interpretation, the game, the anime I've mentioned, what you had for breakfast this morning, anything. Have a good one! ::coolstafy
 
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Megatron has his fair share of 'he's just nuts' depictions.​

Yeah, well...
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This was a fun read, and Devastation was pretty fun! A little bare-bones as a Platinum action game, I suppose, but that still means it's a fast and responsive brawler by any standard.

(What Waffles said though, slap this or something like it in the Writer's Guild as an application, we'd love to see more like it.)
 
I unironically love Bayverse Optimus, even with all the OOC moments and the movies generally being trash.

You. Writer's Guild. Now.
(What Waffles said though, slap this or something like it in the Writer's Guild as an application, we'd love to see more like it.)
This means the world to me, guys. Thank you so much! I wasn't expecting this to get any attention.
 
Its a common trend in fiction to moralise selfishness as an immutable part of the human experience. Like for example using the Shin Megami Tensei games, where the Law alignment is occasionally associated with purging or at least decreasing the selfishness and egoism of humans. Atlus often portrays these sorts of endings as bad which is wild when you think about it because some of them lead to far better outcomes in the long term than any of the other endings. Like in SMT 4 you create what is basically a utopia but its bad because people care about each other more than themselves or something? I say that because in this ending your main character is criticised for being inhuman/robotic and empty of emotion because they are altruistic and care for others even at their expense.

I don't know about you, but one of the defining hallmarks of a hero to me is someone who looks out for others when those people can't look out for themselves, especially at their own expense. It's why I find Optimus to be a great hero, he protects humans even while he suffers. Obviously, its another thing if Optimus protects humans at the expense of cybertronians, but generally it comes across as him trying to defend the well being of all life equally; cybertronian, human and other.
 
Atlus often portrays these sorts of endings as bad which is wild when you think about it because some of them lead to far better outcomes in the long term than any of the other endings. Like in SMT 4 you create what is basically a utopia but its bad because people care about each other more than themselves or something?
Atlus is an interesting example because what they often stage as the "right thing" is highly subjective and prone to divisiveness. How you feel about SMT4 is how I feel about Maruki's alternate reality in P5, which is primarily influenced by my concern over Shiho Suzui. I hate the way she's treated as an off-screen morality prop for Ann, made all the more galling because of what Shiho went through. Then, when I finally get to see her happy and healthy again in Maruki's reality, I'm told that the "right" thing to do is to ruin her life a second time because, once again, utopia bad.

It's why I find Optimus to be a great hero, he protects humans even while he suffers. Obviously, its another thing if Optimus protects humans at the expense of cybertronians, but generally it comes across as him trying to defend the well being of all life equally; cybertronian, human and other.
The friend I spoke about in my post feels the same way! Optimus has so many different variants from all the many continuities, so I'm sure there's a version of him I'll have an easier time connecting with. This is meant to be a dissection of his character in a specific context, not as a concept. It's good to have heroic figures to look up to; I just wish the associated tropes weren't so hard on them sometimes ::peacemario
 
My favourite depiction of Optimus prime is from the War for Cybertron Netflix series and its from how they chose to depict MEGATRON.
The first season makes it clear that Megatron has repeatedly offered peace deals to the autoboots to end the war, going even further as to show restraint when engaging the autobots in combat, taking prisoners where possible and refusing to attack civilians to the point the deceptions are on the verge of open rebellion against him as they think his morality is a sign of weakness.
They show Megatron actively suffering a mental health crisis as he struggles to consolidate his power and all of the Autobots actions have stifled his main goal. Rebuilding Cybertron. The result?
He becomes insane (after time travel madness)

Behold. Optimus Prime.
The hero too stubborn to realise he has lost and pushes a moderate yet ideological opposed antagonist into a ruthless tyrant with no other alternative.
Prime is terrifying and will sacrifice millions of Cybertronians before compromising his morals with his end goal being: I'll outlive my opponent and sort out the rest later.

For anything else?
Optimus Primal is far more interesting a character and yes I'm including Transformers One's depiction in this. Sure him and Megatron being friends is cool but is still a tired cliche.
 
The first season makes it clear that Megatron has repeatedly offered peace deals to the autoboots to end the war, going even further as to show restraint when engaging the autobots in combat, taking prisoners where possible and refusing to attack civilians to the point the deceptions are on the verge of open rebellion against him as they think his morality is a sign of weakness.
They show Megatron actively suffering a mental health crisis as he struggles to consolidate his power and all of the Autobots actions have stifled his main goal. Rebuilding Cybertron. The result?
He becomes insane (after time travel madness)
That sounds really interesting! I have to check that out.

It reminds me of the 2005 IDW run where Megatron is initially depicted as proponent of peaceful protest. He knows that the Functionist government is corrupt but truly believes that violence won't improve things...until said government makes multiple attempts on his life once his rebellious writings become too popular. He's left mentally scarred from the experience, which contributes to his full embrace of violence as a means of social change. He doesn't want to change the governemnt; he wants to eliminate it.

Optimus, on the other hand, is convinced that change can be initiated from within, so you can see how those two eventually clash. In this setting, Optimus starts out very military-minded, so like your example, he's stubborn and devoted to the cause, even at the expense of those who want nothing to do with the conflict—which, in this continuity, is most of Cybertron.

Sure him and Megatron being friends is cool but is still a tired cliche.
When it's just used to drum up drama, I agree. I still like the concept but I don't always like how it's executed.
 

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