Anyone into star trek?

[happymasksalesman happymasksalesman]

okay I wonder why you have change your avatar like that!anyway my bad

 

[fmsynthetic]

Huge fan growing up. Especially TNG/DS9 in my elementary school years. Voyager I thought was awful, but it's still kind of unavoidably associated with feelings of comfort and security from watching it in high school. Watched TOS later and appreciated it for what it was. It was probably my favorite of them all, for a while. Enterprise just never felt right, and the modern stuff gives me a headache.

I'm kind of out of love with all of it now for various reasons I won't go into. Don't think I'll be watching it ever again.

I can still talk about it fondly. If you're laughing at the Gorn episode because it's some chubby guy awkwardly flailing at a guy in a rubber suit who can't really see what he's doing, you don't understand what's happening. Although I'm not saying that isn't funny.

And but the point is that someone says to Kirk 'kill this being who would kill you in a second, and I'll give you what you want'. And he won't do it. Because he's better than that. And we're better than that.

And I guess that that's kind of the crux of what it meant to me, when it meant something to me.

I think we're probably all pretty elderly and view Star Trek as being 'over' at various levels, so maybe we can discuss when we think it was officially 'over'.

Like I said, I have problems with all of it these days, but I think whoever had the idea for there to be a Borg queen was like the first person who didn't know what was going on and was committed to screwing everything up.

Cardassians are my favorite villains anyway.

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I revisit voyager often but i like the next generation and have finished up watching picard season 3 in the past year.

Like I said Voyager has comfy associations for me, but every time I watch it I start reading the episode summaries and saying 'no I'll skip that one it sucks' and I end up skipping through like three seasons unless I just force myself to let it play out.

 

[The_Real_Thing]

Oh yeah. I grew up with TNG and DS9, watching TOS reruns on CBS. Inner Light is still in my top 5 favorite episodes.

EDIT: I should point out that for years I called it "Picard and the Magic Flute"

 

[ChadBelmont]

You! The one who is posting! Experience bij!

 

[wolvieguy]

DS9 has a great theme tune. I think i watched more of DS9 in the 90s but i will try and go through it.

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One of the best movies and the best soundtrack.

 

[DjQuick2008]

Oooby dooby hes insane in this film

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A lot of people say 7 of 9 but this is perfection.

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[kingofdragons]

Oooby dooby hes insane in this film

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A lot of people say 7 of 9 but this is perfection.

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Hmm, you know its a tough choice. I think all the shows had multiple really hot women.

My favorite is actually T'Pol, something about a cute Tsundere Vulcan girl really gets my motor running.

 

[Retro Doomer]

I am old Fashioned I only like the Og Star Trek Starship Enterprise

 

[kingofdragons]

I am old Fashioned I only like the Og Star Trek Starship Enterprise

Understandable, live long and prosper.

 

[Retro Doomer]

Understandable, live long and prosper.

Its only Logical

 

[ATenderLad]

Huge fan growing up. Especially TNG/DS9 in my elementary school years. Voyager I thought was awful, but it's still kind of unavoidably associated with feelings of comfort and security from watching it in high school. Watched TOS later and appreciated it for what it was. It was probably my favorite of them all, for a while. Enterprise just never felt right, and the modern stuff gives me a headache.

I'm kind of out of love with all of it now for various reasons I won't go into. Don't think I'll be watching it ever again.

I can still talk about it fondly. If you're laughing at the Gorn episode because it's some chubby guy awkwardly flailing at a guy in a rubber suit who can't really see what he's doing, you don't understand what's happening. Although I'm not saying that isn't funny.

And but the point is that someone says to Kirk 'kill this being who would kill you in a second, and I'll give you what you want'. And he won't do it. Because he's better than that. And we're better than that.

And I guess that that's kind of the crux of what it meant to me, when it meant something to me.

I think we're probably all pretty elderly and view Star Trek as being 'over' at various levels, so maybe we can discuss when we think it was officially 'over'.

Like I said, I have problems with all of it these days, but I think whoever had the idea for there to be a Borg queen was like the first person who didn't know what was going on and was committed to screwing everything up.

Cardassians are my favorite villains anyway.

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Like I said Voyager has comfy associations for me, but every time I watch it I start reading the episode summaries and saying 'no I'll skip that one it sucks' and I end up skipping through like three seasons unless I just force myself to let it play out.

Voyager is a weird one where I want to love it for the cast (Tim Russ is such a good actor/Vulcan), but the mandate for the show was clearly "make it 1993 again via science or magic", and they just ignore the central premise of being lost "voyagers" to serve up re-heated Next Generation leftovers.

....whiiiiiich is also the problem with a lot of the current stuff. For a series about "boldly going", we're really stuck in nostalgia with Picard and Strange New Worlds. (Lower Decks was a delight, but it's still about "remember the 90's?" - they just have more fun with the idea).

I love that you brought up the Gorn, because that whole thing is weirdly emblematic of the problem with Strange New Worlds. In TOS, like you said, the whole point is Kirk choosing to believe we can be better. (He starts that episode bloodythirsty, hot for revenge on the Gorn for killing a Federation outpost that they felt had colonized their territory). SNW uses the Gorn as these Kirkland-brand Xenomorphs, and keeps coming down on the side of "There can be no peace, these are monsters." It's an odd position for a show that wants to portray Pike as a more diplomatic captain than Kirk, and the show in general as being less gung-ho interventionist than TOS could be at times.

(Like, in the last season finale I think they shot a young Gorn? It was portrayed as a monster, but these are beings that build starships; I don't think they only become sentient after a certain age or anything).

The boring answer, I suppose, is that the Gorn HAVE to be monsters because canon says they have to be hostile to the Federation in the original series first, but it's weird that they handle being boxed in by obsessive lore by being *more xenophobic* than a show from the 60's. The whole thing feels toothless, thematically.

....I do think Ethan Peck is a pretty great young-ish Spock though. (Also, in that one fantasy episode where he has a beard? Ohmygod).

 

[fmsynthetic]

Voyager always felt like any time anyone had an interesting idea or wanted to explore the consequences of the premise, someone said 'but we have to go back to the Star Trek status quo, right?' That someone was probably Rick Berman. Or Brannon Braga.

But then, I think DS9 was the opposite side of that scale, and that kind of culminated in the excesses of the Dominion War arc which I think did irreparable damage to Star Trek and was the seed that led us to the massive nightmare of pew pews and uncontrollable weeping in which we find ourselves today.

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Hmm, you know its a tough choice. I think all the shows had multiple really hot women.

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My favorite is actually T'Pol, something about a cute Tsundere Vulcan girl really gets my motor running.

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tfw you see a Trill qt3.14 and ask her if she has room for another fleshy organism in there

 

[IHeardThatCurtis]

Oh yeah, I'm super into Star Trek. I used to watch DS9 and Voyager with my dad as a kid, but I haven't watched the new stuff. Although I heard Strange New Worlds was good, I might check it out.