Anyone following the drama with Steam and the credit card companies trying to censor games?

[qw90700]

we are violent sexual creatures and we should embrace it in it's entirety instead of suppressing it like god and nature intended

lolol

 

[bjork]

Lets hope its a temporary thing. As it has been proven in this thread, there are a lot of religious nuts in this world that have no problem on imposing their morality on other people. And yet they are the first to complain whenever the government imposes rules that go against their religion. They don't see the hypocrisy of their beliefs because they are lost in the sauce of fanaticism.

Again, look at the history of outrage in games. Look at stuff like Satanic Panic in the 80s. These things generally are temporary. The outrage stays until they coverage goes away, then it boils down to companies wanting to hit those fiscal numbers and that's what always wins. If the boss of Stripe suddenly missed a bonus because of this and can't buy a new boat because of these shout people, he probably has an assassin on retainer. You know?

Mind you, a world does not exist where I'd pay $199 to buy ass sniffing simulator or whatever, but they should be able to shoot their shot. No pun intended.

 

[Strategist's icon Strategist Strategist]

Again, look at the history of outrage in games. Look at stuff like Satanic Panic in the 80s. These things generally are temporary. The outrage stays until they coverage goes away, then it boils down to companies wanting to hit those fiscal numbers and that's what always wins. If the boss of Stripe suddenly missed a bonus because of this and can't buy a new boat because of these shout people, he probably has an assassin on retainer. You know?

Mind you, a world does not exist where I'd pay $199 to buy ass sniffing simulator or whatever, but they should be able to shoot their shot. No pun intended.

I only care about the chilling effect it might have on the industry. I also don't want the industry to be afraid of tackling adult subjects or making games for adults because payment processors might block their payments out of nowhere. As an adult who games, I want to see more games for older folks and not every game be infantile. But if you add subject matter that might piss off one of these morality groups and a rogue payment processor might cut off your payments with no oversight or way to fight back, it is a really ugly precedent to set.

 

[bjork]

I only care about the chilling effect it might have on the industry. I also don't want the industry to be afraid of tackling adult subjects or making games for adults because payment processors might block their payments out of nowhere. As an adult who games, I want to see more games for older folks and not every game be infantile. But if you add subject matter that might piss off one of these morality groups and a rogue payment processor might cut off your payments with no oversight or way to fight back, it is a really ugly precedent to set.

We've gone back and forth on this so this is the last I'll say on it: you're borrowing a lot of worry about a problem that isn't here to the degree you feel it might, and it won't be. Even if it somehow came to pass tomorrow, "the industry" would find a workaround. The proof lies in 40 years of attempts like this on games, none of which have stuck. Idk what else to tell you.

 

[Pandaprewmaster325]

Yeah i agree with bjork on this it seems you are just being overly concerned about the future and where this might lead just give it time strategist in time things will be clear , whatever your stance regarding porn games they might only be effected for a short time , if they start going after more popular games the backlash would be so much they will settle down once they see it.

Censorship in games was always a thing and it will remain and there will always be workarounds for those who don't want it so really chill man cuz it's starting to look like fear mongering from here whether you intend it or not.

 

[Strategist's icon Strategist Strategist]

Yeah i agree with bjork on this it seems you are just being overly concerned about the future and where this might lead just give it time strategist in time things will be clear , whatever your stance regarding porn games they might only be effected for a short time , if they start going after more popular games the backlash would be so much they will settle down once they see it.

Censorship in games was always a thing and it will remain and there will always be workarounds for those who don't want it so really chill man cuz it's starting to look like fear mongering from here whether you intend it or not.

Well, we shall see. You know how things are on the internet. Either this is the end of video games as we know them or a total nothingburger. No in between.

 

[bjork]

Well, we shall see. You know how things are on the internet. Either this is the end of video games as we know them or a total nothingburger. No in between.

That's a little dramatic. Just a little. It'll be okay!