Anyone following the drama with Steam and the credit card companies trying to censor games?

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This thread will probably get locked, but I feel like it is an important subject to talk about. Censorship is back on the table. I'm not keen on all the details but apparently the Australian morality police organization "Collective Shout" has somehow convinced credit card companies to not accept transactions on games that promote sexual violence against women and minors. I'm not super clear on the legality of all of this situation but it seems like H-games are clearly on the way out if things continue, but this is vague enough to also affect games with controversial adult subject matter, such as GTA and Detroit:Become Human.

 
It's kind of like an (actual) Gamergate 2.0 by more middle-aged busybodies where these people are trying to do censorship and control and then crying wolf about supposed totally credible death threats (yes, the same pattern as before) from user AnimeSuperFan69420 but people are mostly not having it and telling them to piss off so they're trying to get governments involved to go after people telling them to piss off. But yes if these people get their way then a wide net can be cast to censor far more than just purely coomer content., and it's always under the disingenuous guise of "protecting the children" just like the recent obvious internet censorship in the UK.
 
Well in this website there was a thread like a month ago and I really don't care about this stuff. It's kinda popcorn worthy though lol.

 
Well in this website there was a thread like a month ago and I really don't care about this stuff. It's kinda popcorn worthy though lol.


Well, if you care about video games and believe they are an art form, you should care about this. The whole "I'm too cool for school" attitude is why groups like these are kicking our ass. If you think these groups are just going to stop with the coomer games, I got news for ya. And it also makes it harder for games with more adult or serious subject matter to be made, which is very relevant for the types of games I enjoy to play (RPGs).

I'm of the opinion that games should be treated like movies and they should be allowed to be made for any audience as long as they are labeled properly as adult content whenever appropriate. Censorship groups like these are abhorrent to me. In a world with proper game ratings, they serve no purpose other than to annoy those who want freedom of choice.
 
Not following per se, but I have heard about it.

It's kind of incredible that this is a thing at all, but then again... it's gaming. It's like taking a pogo stick to a minefield and expect anything but to be merrily blown to pieces in the most preventable way possible.
 
Yea, its really bad, and getting worse really quick. We're entering an era of total internet surveillance and censorship
 
Yea, its really bad, and getting worse really quick. We're entering an era of total internet surveillance and censorship

Yes, it does seem like there is a regressive trend in society as of late. It seems like if we want nice things to happen, we are going to have to organize more. I do like the idea of organizing like the "Stop Killing Games" initiative in Europe, but defending this is a little more complicated. Nobody wants to get labeled as a pedo or a grapist, and groups like "Collective Shout" are quick to label their opponents as such. The mainstream media is dumb enough to fall for this type of manipulation so we can't expect them to be our ally either. They've labeled gamers as satanic or murderers before, labeling them as sexual deviants wouldn't be out of character for them.
 
I am not following it too closely, but it seems a bit worrying. Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems like they got an entire category of games delisted in itch.io, like more than 10.000 games?
 
I am not following it too closely, but it seems a bit worrying. Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems like they got an entire category of games delisted in itch.io, like more than 10.000 games?

This is news to me. Not sure how'd they accomplish that... are they calling ISPs as well?
 
Well, if you care about video games and believe they are an art form, you should care about this. The whole "I'm too cool for school" attitude is why groups like these are kicking our ass. If you think these groups are just going to stop with the coomer games, I got news for ya. And it also makes it harder for games with more adult or serious subject matter to be made, which is very relevant for the types of games I enjoy to play (RPGs).

I'm of the opinion that games should be treated like movies and they should be allowed to be made for any audience as long as they are labeled properly as adult content whenever appropriate. Censorship groups like these are abhorrent to me. In a world with proper game ratings, they serve no purpose other than to annoy those who want freedom of choice.
In one hand I'm bothered with "art" games for wankers produced with Microsoft Paint anime Stick Man that has boobs so their censorship is useful to me to access actual games on Steam, on the other hand I can live my life just fine without women characters and gore in video games. As a result: I don't really give a shit about existence of video game industry for it's useless to me anyway since a decade for spamming rubbishes and I have tons of hobbies so if I really want to play a game I can play tons of old games + I can develop my own game which I do for decades whether how low quality and Atari 2600 simple they may be. So it's not about "cool" for I'm no American teenager, clearly my existence bound to rules you have no idea of so what you know to judge me doesn't really help you to understand my stance on this topic. My tip: Instead of a stand I'm just sitting here lolol.

Current payment processes may bail out to play safe, they would because they are too "fundamental" of current society in the way everyone uses them, then there will come other payment processors to do what the previous ones can't. That's how business is done when current payment processors literally shit on business and business is powerful enough to assassinate kings and destroy civilizations. Don't fuck with business lol.

The world slowly but surely transitioning to Web 3.0 technologies in which sooner or later people will just click on their money and buy stuff without a bank and not actually access the "store". Imagine you click on your money and say what you wanna buy and it will happen. It means payment processors won't be needed when money itself does all the stuff. It makes this topic's concern seem like "damn existence of factories making us jobless" and "scientists are heretics!!!".

So no worries, currently it seems like Mortal Kombat BS with a modern twist all again. People feared video games would be banned and gore would be a distant dream back then but age rating was invented.

However payment may be made anonymously thanks to the magic of Web 3.0, yet the services like Steam may start to require scanning your citizen ID due to recent backlash to satisfy both parties and by making government and companies get what they want too. So to buy wanker games you gotta scan your citizen ID, the government will officially label you you are a wanker if you wanna buy such rubbish. Then only adults may buy such stuff. Thus the possibility of "my kid secretly buying these games and his emotional development being prevented by arrested development" Karen issue is solved and wankers may buy wanker simulator games. Everybody wins, house wins more lolol.

Thus how mental illness becoming a tool for capitalism may be eliminated, which is only merit I see in this BS. Making teenagers exposed too much on "sexual bodies" and thus distorting their sense of how a person should be and how society is from the start a bad decision. I fuck that art and naturally I don't wanna live within a primitive society. So I think it may teach companies a lesson that their "sex sells" logic is what lots of people already hate and they don't see it as art, in fact they don't care when such BS make mentally ill people more ill. If human civilization will progress it will be in the way of eliminating unnecessary mental illness elements from entertainment industry. Your kid may not be effected by playing Postal 2 but doesn't mean some other kid won't. Most people are stupid, and their decision making process works simply by stimulating memory by mirroring what others does. That's why it's time to "control" society for greater good more than ever when population is so high and internet making people more insane. So excuse people if they wanna fix fundamental problems of humanity that's not a problem to you at all but causes problems to others.

In the end, if you care it's your fight while my fight is elsewhere. Good luck, soldier!!! <o lolol

tl;dr:

 
In one hand I'm bothered with "art" games for wankers produced with Microsoft Paint anime Stick Man that has boobs so their censorship is useful to me to access actual games on Steam, on the other hand I can live my life just fine without women characters and gore in video games. As a result: I don't really give a shit about existence of video game industry for it's useless to me anyway since a decade for spamming rubbishes and I have tons of hobbies so if I really want to play a game I can play tons of old games + I can develop my own game which I do for decades whether how low quality and Atari 2600 simple they may be. So it's not about "cool" for I'm no American teenager, clearly my existence bound to rules you have no idea of so what you know to judge me doesn't really help you to understand my stance on this topic. My tip: Instead of a stand I'm just sitting here lolol.

Current payment processes may bail out to play safe, they would because they are too "fundamental" of current society in the way everyone uses them, then there will come other payment processors to do what the previous ones can't. That's how business is done when current payment processors literally shit on business and business is powerful enough to assassinate kings and destroy civilizations. Don't fuck with business lol.

The world slowly but surely transitioning to Web 3.0 technologies in which sooner or later people will just click on their money and buy stuff without a bank and not actually access the "store". Imagine you click on your money and say what you wanna buy and it will happen. It means payment processors won't be needed when money itself does all the stuff. It makes this topic's concern seem like "damn existence of factories making us jobless" and "scientists are heretics!!!".

So no worries, currently it seems like Mortal Kombat BS with a modern twist all again. People feared video games would be banned and gore would be a distant dream back then but age rating was invented.

However payment may be made anonymously thanks to the magic of Web 3.0, yet the services like Steam may start to require scanning your citizen ID due to recent backlash to satisfy both parties and by making government and companies get what they want too. So to buy wanker games you gotta scan your citizen ID, the government will officially label you you are a wanker if you wanna buy such rubbish. Then only adults may buy such stuff. Thus the possibility of "my kid secretly buying these games and his emotional development being prevented by arrested development" Karen issue is solved and wankers may buy wanker simulator games. Everybody wins, house wins more lolol.

Thus how mental illness becoming a tool for capitalism may be eliminated, which is only merit I see in this BS. Making teenagers exposed too much on "sexual bodies" and thus distorting their sense of how a person should be and how society is from the start a bad decision. I fuck that art and naturally I don't wanna live within a primitive society. So I think it may teach companies a lesson that their "sex sells" logic is what lots of people already hate and they don't see it as art, in fact they don't care when such BS make mentally ill people more ill. If human civilization will progress it will be in the way of eliminating unnecessary mental illness elements from entertainment industry. Your kid may not be effected by playing Postal 2 but doesn't mean some other kid won't. Most people are stupid, and their decision making process works simply by stimulating memory by mirroring what others does. That's why it's time to "control" society for greater good more than ever when population is so high and internet making people more insane. So excuse people if they wanna fix fundamental problems of humanity that's not a problem to you at all but causes problems to others.

In the end, if you care it's your fight while my fight is elsewhere. Good luck, soldier!!! <o lolol
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In one hand I'm bothered with "art" games for wankers produced with Microsoft Paint anime Stick Man that has boobs so their censorship is useful to me to access actual games on Steam, on the other hand I can live my life just fine without women characters and gore in video games. As a result: I don't really give a shit about existence of video game industry for it's useless to me anyway since a decade for spamming rubbishes and I have tons of hobbies so if I really want to play a game I can play tons of old games + I can develop my own game which I do for decades whether how low quality and Atari 2600 simple they may be. So it's not about "cool" for I'm no American teenager, clearly my existence bound to rules you have no idea of so what you know to judge me doesn't really help you to understand my stance on this topic. My tip: Instead of a stand I'm just sitting here lolol.

Current payment processes may bail out to play safe, they would because they are too "fundamental" of current society in the way everyone uses them, then there will come other payment processors to do what the previous ones can't. That's how business is done when current payment processors literally shit on business and business is powerful enough to assassinate kings and destroy civilizations. Don't fuck with business lol.

The world slowly but surely transitioning to Web 3.0 technologies in which sooner or later people will just click on their money and buy stuff without a bank and not actually access the "store". Imagine you click on your money and say what you wanna buy and it will happen. It means payment processors won't be needed when money itself does all the stuff. It makes this topic's concern seem like "damn existence of factories making us jobless" and "scientists are heretics!!!".

So no worries, currently it seems like Mortal Kombat BS with a modern twist all again. People feared video games would be banned and gore would be a distant dream back then but age rating was invented.

However payment may be made anonymously thanks to the magic of Web 3.0, yet the services like Steam may start to require scanning your citizen ID due to recent backlash to satisfy both parties and by making government and companies get what they want too. So to buy wanker games you gotta scan your citizen ID, the government will officially label you you are a wanker if you wanna buy such rubbish. Then only adults may buy such stuff. Thus the possibility of "my kid secretly buying these games and his emotional development being prevented by arrested development" Karen issue is solved and wankers may buy wanker simulator games. Everybody wins, house wins more lolol.

Thus how mental illness becoming a tool for capitalism may be eliminated, which is only merit I see in this BS. Making teenagers exposed too much on "sexual bodies" and thus distorting their sense of how a person should be and how society is from the start a bad decision. I fuck that art and naturally I don't wanna live within a primitive society. So I think it may teach companies a lesson that their "sex sells" logic is what lots of people already hate and they don't see it as art, in fact they don't care when such BS make mentally ill people more ill. If human civilization will progress it will be in the way of eliminating unnecessary mental illness elements from entertainment industry. Your kid may not be effected by playing Postal 2 but doesn't mean some other kid won't. Most people are stupid, and their decision making process works simply by stimulating memory by mirroring what others does. That's why it's time to "control" society for greater good more than ever when population is so high and internet making people more insane. So excuse people if they wanna fix fundamental problems of humanity that's not a problem to you at all but causes problems to others.

In the end, if you care it's your fight while my fight is elsewhere. Good luck, soldier!!! <o lolol

tl;dr:


 
In one hand I'm bothered with "art" games for wankers produced with Microsoft Paint anime Stick Man that has boobs so their censorship is useful to me to access actual games on Steam, on the other hand I can live my life just fine without women characters and gore in video games. As a result: I don't really give a shit about existence of video game industry for it's useless to me anyway since a decade for spamming rubbishes and I have tons of hobbies so if I really want to play a game I can play tons of old games + I can develop my own game which I do for decades whether how low quality and Atari 2600 simple they may be. So it's not about "cool" for I'm no American teenager, clearly my existence bound to rules you have no idea of so what you know to judge me doesn't really help you to understand my stance on this topic. My tip: Instead of a stand I'm just sitting here lolol.

Current payment processes may bail out to play safe, they would because they are too "fundamental" of current society in the way everyone uses them, then there will come other payment processors to do what the previous ones can't. That's how business is done when current payment processors literally shit on business and business is powerful enough to assassinate kings and destroy civilizations. Don't fuck with business lol.

The world slowly but surely transitioning to Web 3.0 technologies in which sooner or later people will just click on their money and buy stuff without a bank and not actually access the "store". Imagine you click on your money and say what you wanna buy and it will happen. It means payment processors won't be needed when money itself does all the stuff. It makes this topic's concern seem like "damn existence of factories making us jobless" and "scientists are heretics!!!".

So no worries, currently it seems like Mortal Kombat BS with a modern twist all again. People feared video games would be banned and gore would be a distant dream back then but age rating was invented.

However payment may be made anonymously thanks to the magic of Web 3.0, yet the services like Steam may start to require scanning your citizen ID due to recent backlash to satisfy both parties and by making government and companies get what they want too. So to buy wanker games you gotta scan your citizen ID, the government will officially label you you are a wanker if you wanna buy such rubbish. Then only adults may buy such stuff. Thus the possibility of "my kid secretly buying these games and his emotional development being prevented by arrested development" Karen issue is solved and wankers may buy wanker simulator games. Everybody wins, house wins more lolol.

Thus how mental illness becoming a tool for capitalism may be eliminated, which is only merit I see in this BS. Making teenagers exposed too much on "sexual bodies" and thus distorting their sense of how a person should be and how society is from the start a bad decision. I fuck that art and naturally I don't wanna live within a primitive society. So I think it may teach companies a lesson that their "sex sells" logic is what lots of people already hate and they don't see it as art, in fact they don't care when such BS make mentally ill people more ill. If human civilization will progress it will be in the way of eliminating unnecessary mental illness elements from entertainment industry. Your kid may not be effected by playing Postal 2 but doesn't mean some other kid won't. Most people are stupid, and their decision making process works simply by stimulating memory by mirroring what others does. That's why it's time to "control" society for greater good more than ever when population is so high and internet making people more insane. So excuse people if they wanna fix fundamental problems of humanity that's not a problem to you at all but causes problems to others.

In the end, if you care it's your fight while my fight is elsewhere. Good luck, soldier!!! <o lolol

tl;dr:

 
What's remarkable to me is that Collective Shout seem to ignore that what they want (or, at the very least, a much less inflammatory version of it) already IS a thing in some places, but they just refuse to see it.

There are huge markets right now where games need to be modified before being allowed to be released in there, otherwise that just doesn't happen. Now, granted, most of it includes making it so a character who is originally 15 or something says they are 19 and stuff, but that's all there needs to be done in 90% of cases.
 
This is news to me. Not sure how'd they accomplish that... are they calling ISPs as well?
It's the whole payment processors thing. The payment processors forced then to quickly remove like half of the NSFW games they had. But like I said, I am not really keeping up so I am not sure the details and if they are already back or not
 
In one hand I'm bothered with "art" games for wankers produced with Microsoft Paint anime Stick Man that has boobs so their censorship is useful to me to access actual games on Steam, on the other hand I can live my life just fine without women characters and gore in video games. As a result: I don't really give a shit about existence of video game industry for it's useless to me anyway since a decade for spamming rubbishes and I have tons of hobbies so if I really want to play a game I can play tons of old games + I can develop my own game which I do for decades whether how low quality and Atari 2600 simple they may be. So it's not about "cool" for I'm no American teenager, clearly my existence bound to rules you have no idea of so what you know to judge me doesn't really help you to understand my stance on this topic. My tip: Instead of a stand I'm just sitting here lolol.

Current payment processes may bail out to play safe, they would because they are too "fundamental" of current society in the way everyone uses them, then there will come other payment processors to do what the previous ones can't. That's how business is done when current payment processors literally shit on business and business is powerful enough to assassinate kings and destroy civilizations. Don't fuck with business lol.

The world slowly but surely transitioning to Web 3.0 technologies in which sooner or later people will just click on their money and buy stuff without a bank and not actually access the "store". Imagine you click on your money and say what you wanna buy and it will happen. It means payment processors won't be needed when money itself does all the stuff. It makes this topic's concern seem like "damn existence of factories making us jobless" and "scientists are heretics!!!".

So no worries, currently it seems like Mortal Kombat BS with a modern twist all again. People feared video games would be banned and gore would be a distant dream back then but age rating was invented.

However payment may be made anonymously thanks to the magic of Web 3.0, yet the services like Steam may start to require scanning your citizen ID due to recent backlash to satisfy both parties and by making government and companies get what they want too. So to buy wanker games you gotta scan your citizen ID, the government will officially label you you are a wanker if you wanna buy such rubbish. Then only adults may buy such stuff. Thus the possibility of "my kid secretly buying these games and his emotional development being prevented by arrested development" Karen issue is solved and wankers may buy wanker simulator games. Everybody wins, house wins more lolol.

Thus how mental illness becoming a tool for capitalism may be eliminated, which is only merit I see in this BS. Making teenagers exposed too much on "sexual bodies" and thus distorting their sense of how a person should be and how society is from the start a bad decision. I fuck that art and naturally I don't wanna live within a primitive society. So I think it may teach companies a lesson that their "sex sells" logic is what lots of people already hate and they don't see it as art, in fact they don't care when such BS make mentally ill people more ill. If human civilization will progress it will be in the way of eliminating unnecessary mental illness elements from entertainment industry. Your kid may not be effected by playing Postal 2 but doesn't mean some other kid won't. Most people are stupid, and their decision making process works simply by stimulating memory by mirroring what others does. That's why it's time to "control" society for greater good more than ever when population is so high and internet making people more insane. So excuse people if they wanna fix fundamental problems of humanity that's not a problem to you at all but causes problems to others.

In the end, if you care it's your fight while my fight is elsewhere. Good luck, soldier!!! <o lolol

tl;dr:

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The only games i'm seeing get outright censored are porn games. I don't own any so I have no issues with Steam.
 
It's the whole payment processors thing. The payment processors forced then to quickly remove like half of the NSFW games they had. But like I said, I am not really keeping up so I am not sure the details and if they are already back or not

All I know is that I'm seeing a lot of chatter about it online. And GOG.com gifted a bunch of adult games (and Postal 2) to create awareness about what the payment processors are doing to digital game stores. This is a real issue, unfortunately. It seems to go beyond Steam.
 
All I know is that I'm seeing a lot of chatter about it online.
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Long story short: Some adults blamed payment processors for their existence helps "people do bad stuff", for example selling "insane video games poison our kids!!!" so payment process playing "sense of morality card" for brand image for not wanna involve with "bad stuff" despite it's not illegal. Thus they believe lots of parent issues are solved like "oh now my daughter won't sell herself on OnlyFans" and "my stupid son won't steal my credit card to buy tons of wanker games" lol.

So what is effected?: Basically porn stuff beyond video games like OnlyFans and whatever places sells porn. But angry parents wanna expand that beyond porn because they blame lots of stuff.

What governments wanna do because of it?: For votes they want to implement a system that require your citizen ID to use internet. Banning social media to non-adults. Making ISPs allow "child friendly" internet to assignated private devices kids may be using. Governments has no idea what to do but people speak to their ears like devil and they are called "parents" who also has no idea how world is and what to do but they all demand BS lol.
 
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Long story short: Some adults blamed payment processors for their existence helps "people do bad stuff", for example selling "insane video games poison our kids!!!" so payment process playing "sense of morality card" for brand image for not wanna involve with "bad stuff" despite it's not illegal. Thus they believe lots of parent issues are solved like "oh now my daughter won't sell herself on OnlyFans" and "my stupid son won't steal my credit card to buy tons of wanker games" lol.

So what is effected?: Basically porn stuff beyond video games like OnlyFans and whatever places sells porn. But angry parents wanna expand that beyond porn because they blame lots of stuff.

What governments wanna do because of it?: For votes they want to implement a system that require your citizen ID to use internet. Banning social media to non-adults. Making ISPs allow "child friendly" internet to assignated private devices kids may be using. Governments has no idea what to do but people speak to their ears like devil and they are called "parents" who also has no idea how world is and what to do but they all demand BS lol.
Steam actually has a better filter for adult content than GOG or Nintendo. I keep seeing hentai games pop up even on the Switch eshop.
 
In one hand I'm bothered with "art" games for wankers produced with Microsoft Paint anime Stick Man that has boobs so their censorship is useful to me to access actual games on Steam, on the other hand I can live my life just fine without women characters and gore in video games. As a result: I don't really give a shit about existence of video game industry for it's useless to me anyway since a decade for spamming rubbishes and I have tons of hobbies so if I really want to play a game I can play tons of old games + I can develop my own game which I do for decades whether how low quality and Atari 2600 simple they may be. So it's not about "cool" for I'm no American teenager, clearly my existence bound to rules you have no idea of so what you know to judge me doesn't really help you to understand my stance on this topic. My tip: Instead of a stand I'm just sitting here lolol.

Current payment processes may bail out to play safe, they would because they are too "fundamental" of current society in the way everyone uses them, then there will come other payment processors to do what the previous ones can't. That's how business is done when current payment processors literally shit on business and business is powerful enough to assassinate kings and destroy civilizations. Don't fuck with business lol.

The world slowly but surely transitioning to Web 3.0 technologies in which sooner or later people will just click on their money and buy stuff without a bank and not actually access the "store". Imagine you click on your money and say what you wanna buy and it will happen. It means payment processors won't be needed when money itself does all the stuff. It makes this topic's concern seem like "damn existence of factories making us jobless" and "scientists are heretics!!!".

So no worries, currently it seems like Mortal Kombat BS with a modern twist all again. People feared video games would be banned and gore would be a distant dream back then but age rating was invented.

However payment may be made anonymously thanks to the magic of Web 3.0, yet the services like Steam may start to require scanning your citizen ID due to recent backlash to satisfy both parties and by making government and companies get what they want too. So to buy wanker games you gotta scan your citizen ID, the government will officially label you you are a wanker if you wanna buy such rubbish. Then only adults may buy such stuff. Thus the possibility of "my kid secretly buying these games and his emotional development being prevented by arrested development" Karen issue is solved and wankers may buy wanker simulator games. Everybody wins, house wins more lolol.

Thus how mental illness becoming a tool for capitalism may be eliminated, which is only merit I see in this BS. Making teenagers exposed too much on "sexual bodies" and thus distorting their sense of how a person should be and how society is from the start a bad decision. I fuck that art and naturally I don't wanna live within a primitive society. So I think it may teach companies a lesson that their "sex sells" logic is what lots of people already hate and they don't see it as art, in fact they don't care when such BS make mentally ill people more ill. If human civilization will progress it will be in the way of eliminating unnecessary mental illness elements from entertainment industry. Your kid may not be effected by playing Postal 2 but doesn't mean some other kid won't. Most people are stupid, and their decision making process works simply by stimulating memory by mirroring what others does. That's why it's time to "control" society for greater good more than ever when population is so high and internet making people more insane. So excuse people if they wanna fix fundamental problems of humanity that's not a problem to you at all but causes problems to others.

In the end, if you care it's your fight while my fight is elsewhere. Good luck, soldier!!! <o lolol

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I understand the whole slippery slope logic, but with these things you always get a lot of knee jerk reactions before anything more has even happened. Before we get all 'total internet censorship police state' let's focus on the fact that so far only some obviously questionable games have been pulled off a private storefront, with some pressure thrown around on a few others of course. If Steam doesn't want to deal with the pressure then they don't have to. There's still entire other storefronts to acquire coom games on.

That being said, I'm of course against censorship like this personally; I'm just playing some reason here. The whole ID business is a separate issue, but I'm more concerned about that and I'm far over the age where I'm likely to even have to deal with it. The government basically has all my data already, but my concern is just if they outsource the security or collection of that data to an outside party given the often times hilariously laid back cybersecurity a lot of companies use for some baffling reason.
 
Well, if you care about video games and believe they are an art form, you should care about this. The whole "I'm too cool for school" attitude is why groups like these are kicking our ass. If you think these groups are just going to stop with the coomer games, I got news for ya. And it also makes it harder for games with more adult or serious subject matter to be made, which is very relevant for the types of games I enjoy to play (RPGs).

I'm of the opinion that games should be treated like movies and they should be allowed to be made for any audience as long as they are labeled properly as adult content whenever appropriate. Censorship groups like these are abhorrent to me. In a world with proper game ratings, they serve no purpose other than to annoy those who want freedom of choice.
Its not only for people of the "Videogames are art "-crowd but for people overall that love videogames overall.

Its just restricting creativity , design and what should be taken as Entertainment.
This brings my blood to the boiling-point .

The gaming-industry is already on its knees while indies have a hard time to establish themselves in gaming overall when not only censorship , competition , DEI , out-of-touch wine-moms and now mentally weak corporate idiots putting huge hurdles into their ways to overcome .

This slippery Slope was very foreseeable but the nitpicking about pornographic and violent games to ban them , just shows how allergic those people are towards their own responsibility and can never see one step ahead of their own untoughtful actions . Pure impulsivity but no thought of it . This will cut their own flesh and i hope they are ready to squeal for their idiocy .

Can we finally activate the nitro-boost , rocket-accelerators and afterburners into the industry-crash ? This Clown-show just gets on my nerves in the worst way possible .

That Steam just simply bowed down to mastercard and visa so easily , is the icing on the cake .

Sorry for my rant but i hate when creativity is getting killed and restricted by a bunch braindead whiners with no life , personality , standards and any reason . I could vomit flames of pure rage about such a topic .
 
no i don't "follow" it cause it's super draining and a lot of the people fighting against it are mostly short sighted hypocrites anyways so i don't exactly have much faith in any resistance towards it because even if they drop it they'll just pick it back up a couple years from now with the same "think of the children" bullshit

you're either full in with freedom of expression or you're not, flimsy vague morals are what got us in this situation to begin with such as "i'm pro freeze peach B-BUT" and of course "you have free speech but use common sense" plus we've had the answer to decentralizing currency and not relying on bankers for years now but because people are morons they don't want to give it a shot because CNN said that the planet is burning alive cause of crypto mining and think of the children or something so shut up and keep paying taxes with a dying currency made by people that hate you

and the obscenity clause is unconstitutional but of course no one seems to care because
>m-muh common sense!!!
 
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I understand the whole slippery slope logic, but with these things you always get a lot of knee jerk reactions before anything more has even happened.
Damn I forgot I'm a time traveller lolol.

In 2 days some real big shit will happen. Stay tuned. ::winkfelix
 

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