Anyone currently reading comics?

Speaking of ultimate universe, Secret wars was really weird cuz it was basically marvel trying to have a crisis but without the universe reset
Killing off the ultimate universe was extremely dumb
 
Ultimate universe was ultimately very weird. I’m not the biggest marvel geek so the original context behind the ultimate universe always gets lost on me. Why did marvel feel the need of making what’s functionally a soft reboot? What, would copying infinite crisis be too on the nose?
The initial goal was to make it more appealing to comic book newcomers, doing away with any continuity so they could hopefully get into it. They also wanted some level of 'reinventions' for the characters, which were mostly done well. Aunt May's a spunky 'tough' grandma with a pixie cut, Ultimate Iron Man has a brain tumour instead of shrapnel in his heart, Wolverine's still mostly the same but really more into the underage girls, etc.

Ultimate Thor
Ultimate Thor is awesome, I really dig the whole "okay, is he reincarnated Thor or is he a just a crazy person?" angle they had with him.

I was going to post the also infamous panel of Cap finding out Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are 'like like' into each other, when I started realising almost every infamous Ultimate thing is a weird sex thing. Other than Ultimatum, which was weird for entirely different reasons.
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Speaking of ultimate universe, Secret wars was really weird cuz it was basically marvel trying to have a crisis but without the universe reset
Killing off the ultimate universe was extremely dumb
Yeah basically; Jim Shooter was a hell of a guy. The name Secret Wars is really silly and was allegedly just the marketing department slapping something together, and the whole thing was obviously for some toy revenue as they had the Mattel action figures lined up before the book even dropped. Man, Crisis was so good.
 
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Alright I think I've largely collected my thoughts for my top ten comics. I will be including a few comic strips here, because I like them enough that it would just feel wrong of me to leave them out or to include them in an honorable mention or something.

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10. Life in Hell: I have always been fascinated by works that are such pure looks into the minds of their creators, and I don't think anything represents that better for Matt Groening than Life in Hell does, or at least, did. I imagine he's likely grown and changed as a person since making this strip. This comic just oozes pure self-published comics rebellion. This strip can also give you some tonal whiplash, because one strip might just be some cute humor surrounding Bongo (the little rabbit guy in the middle), and the next would be a detailed analysis of everything Matt Groening thought was wrong with being an adult in the 80s, only to be followed up by a humorous argument between Akbar and Jeff (the guys on the far left and right) that in actuality was a thinly-veiled representation of some argument Groening had in real life.

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Golden Age Alan Scott: I can't really just pick one line when his stories are spread around a handful of different lines, but I am particularly talking about his stories in All-American Comics and Green Lantern Vol. 1. When I saw this man see that his powers couldn't work and have the absolute balls to decide to fist fight Solomon Grundy, I knew I likely had a new favorite on my hands. Alan Scott stories are particularly great for me from this era, because while he has a lot of the same appeal that Superman does, the underlying fact that without that ring he is just a relatively intelligent and practical person is brought up regularly, and I absolutely adore the degree to which he is just willing to give everything for the right cause, especially because he goes far, far beyond the level that most heroes are willing to go.

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8. Hagar the Horrible: I've always liked the idea of taking a humorous look at vikings in the medieval era, but I really tend to hate how most media tends to work with that concept. A lot of the time it just kind of boils down to "Teehee, look at how stupid these guys were!" and I think that's a really boring lens to look at that time period for the purposes of comedy. Hagar on the other hand, tries and succeeds to make viking, and by extension, medieval life relatable. It's easy to see yourself in the shoes of a lot of these characters, and just laugh with them and the situation, rather than just treating them like a bunch of moderately angry clowns. I've also always found Browne's art charming, and think it really enhances the likeability of everyone in his strip.

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7. Golden and Silver Age Batman: I've always had an opinion that has always been a bit of a hot take, which I feel I should include here for some context on this. Usually when asked, I often tell people that I flat out do not like Batman. That's not entirely true though, otherwise this placement would really make no sense. What would be more accurate, but much less inflammatory and fun to say, would be to say that I don't really like post Tower of Babel Batman, or as I know he's called pretty regularly, Batgod. I have a few fundamental beliefs about Batman as a character that really hold me off from liking him in the vast majority of modern contexts. First, Batman ultimately is just a guy. An incredibly rich, intelligent, and skilled guy, but still just a guy. I've never really liked the direction of Batman having contingency plans for everything and being able to come up with anything he needs whenever he needs it just because he's Batman, fuck you. I actually think it takes a lot out of his character, because he doesn't really need to do any of the things that make him interesting if he just knows what could potentially be a problem and solves it before it ever even happens. How can a detective do detective things if he already solved the case before it even happened? I miss when a reasonable versus argument would have been Batman vs. Hourman, not Batman vs. Superman. The other core belief I have for him is something I know is just downright controversial at best, but it's also something I feel about most superheroes. Batman is an inherently silly character. The man's parents died in a genuinely tragic way when he was a child, and his actual reaction was to hold onto that for decades until a bat startles him, which inspires him to dress in a rubber bat suit and beat up thugs and mentally ill people, all the while recruiting the occasional orphan in his quest for unbridled and unfocused vengeance and theming every little thing he uses on bats. The man is a god damn cartoon, and even when I like the more serious stories, I just find it a little hard to take completely seriously. But, that's precisely why I love these eras for him so much, because they can't take him seriously half the time either and lean into it to just tell the silliest story they can come up with. Be it Batman going into children's story books, wearing a rainbow of suit colors for overly convoluted reasons, or just ripping off Superman with Bat-Mite, I think these comics are just pure entertainment with little to no substance, and I absolutely love them. Even then, there are still occasional stories that are also genuinely good detective/mystery stories, like pretty much any story involving the original Clayface, Basil Karlo.

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6. Star Wars: Republic: There's so much for me to say with this series that I don't even really properly know where to begin. Keeping this one brief because I really don't know how I would talk about it without spoiling some of the stories it connects with, I can say that this spans from around the time of The Phantom Menace until part of the way through Revenge of the Sith. The focus is largely on a variety of the auxiliary members of the Jedi Council, particularly Ki-Adi Mundi, as well as some of their Padawans. This run has a lot of solid stories and characters, and has great connections to other Star Wars comics and media.

(To be continued after a bump, I have lots more to say about my top 5)​
 
that I don't really like post Tower of Babel Batman, or as I know he's called pretty regularly, Batgod.
I feel you on that, pretty much everything you said about the 'prep time' meme I can get behind. I feel he's been flanderized a little bit ever since New 52 honestly. I'm also not a big fan of an extended, constant Bat-family which has been the status quo seemingly for awhile now (I guess since Batman Inc more or less). A few members here and there, a Batgirl or a Robin or two I'm fine with but then you got Spoiler and then a Red Hood and a Batwoman and another Batwoman and you've lost me.

Also, bump.
 
(Thank you @Octopus for the bump, and a pleasant handshake to each of your tentacles!)

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5. Silver Age Superman: Similar to Batman, I love the generally silly "anything can happen" feel of this era of Superman, but there's so much more to it than that. Probably my most simple love for this era is seeing what they'll do with Superman. The writers were really given the reins to just do whatever they wanted as long as it didn't go against the Comics Code Authority, and it really shows. Another related part of my love for this era is that, essentially, every cover is clickbait. So, so, so many covers from this time period just make Superman look like an absolute psychopath (I believe the term for this trope is Superdickery), and the stories inside will if anything often be way, way worse than the cover, only for the last page or two to more than bend over backwards to show that Superman was actually doing the right thing (or at least the wrong thing for the right reasons) the whole time, and nobody else could understand it, or else his plan totally wouldn't work. The lives of all of his friends are at his whim, but everyone just kinda trusts him because it always works out. Another part is, like with Batman comics from this era, his stories are often just hilarious, though I think it's more unintentional here. I really don't think Superman adopting Jimmy Olsen only to abuse him so much that he doesn't want to be his son anymore is supposed to be funny, but it's absolutely hilarious. I'm lumping Superboy stories in here too, because those are Clark during this time period, and if anything they exemplify this last point even more. It's in those issues where we learn that Lex Luthor was actually also in Smallville when Clark was growing up, and the reason that Lex hates Superman is because Lex went bald because he screwed up making something with the chemicals Superboy gave him out of friendship. Superboy even saves his life in that accident by pulling him away from the chemicals, and he still decides to just dedicate his life to being one of the biggest haters of all time. It's just so silly, but they want you to take it all seriously which makes it even more hilarious. That said though, one of the biggest reasons I think I love this era is because of the parts where you can see they wanted to change, but couldn't. there's this whole arc where Lex goes with Superman to have a final fight on an alien planet, only for Lex to cheat and win but realize he has no way home. The planet happens to be inhabited, and thinks he's some great hero, and the writing makes it clear that this would have been an arc where they write him being redeemed. You can really tell they wanted to do this to, because around the same time they introduced Bizarro Lex, who is just a good guy. But, because of the CCA, they couldn't. Bad guys had to be bad guys. Those stories are still good as is, but I can only imagine how they would be different without the CCA being full blast during this period, and I feel like anything that can capture someone so much has to have some genuine merit.

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4. The Mask: A theme some of you are probably noticing in my taste is that I absolutely love when writers are willing and able to go all in on a concept and roll with it to their heart's content, and I don't think there's a single comic that does that better than The Mask. It's really a shame to me that there isn't more content from this concept. The idea of a magical mask that preys on people by allowing them to act without inhibition, only for it to slowly and subtly corrupt their minds into absolute insanity is amazing. I think it really speaks and appeals to those thoughts people have of just "Man, if I could just get away with whatever I wanted, I'd go nuts right now". But the great thing is, it's not just some shallow gore porn either, because it uses that concept to really study and showcase the depth of the characters it presents. Kellaway in particular I think is probably The Mask at its peak in that regard, because you can really see and feel that slow mental decline, and you get to see how he reacts to and feels about it when the mask is off. The art is also fantastic, and the brutality of it really helps with a lot of the things the story is trying to do. Most importantly though, these comics are just god damn pure fun. There's almost no pages that aren't either showing something brutal, setting something up, or are really completely down time in any fashion. Every little ounce of this comic is just trying to be extreme and making you have fun with it, almost like a really messed up cartoon. Put simply, it's just fantastic in every sense.

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3. Planet Hulk & World War Hulk: I'm lumping these together because I have similar feelings about both stories, and they're so tied to each other that I'd feel wrong just mentioning one of them. Planet Hulk is singlehandedly the story that took Hulk from being a character I generally liked to being a character I would describe as a favorite. I love getting to see Hulk just be himself and act in his own way without restrictions, and while his connection to Banner is a big part of why I like the character now, it's genuinely really refreshing to get to see a story that just focuses on Hulk himself. Not only that, it just feels good for Hulk to be unconditionally loved by some peers. No hidden layer of fear or mistrust, just genuine connection. Getting to see Hulk also be the lead hero in a story without any caveat to it is great, and for me at least is a great look into the Hulk as a character. That's not to say that it hadn't been done before this, but the exclusive look into him and how he develops from the connection he gets here is a great read. World War Hulk continues with the look of Hulk as a character and how he's developed, while also giving a bit of a cathartic beatdown to the people who wronged him by sending him off planet in the first place (even if they didn't necessarily all deserve it, but to avoid spoilers for those who haven't read it I will avoid getting into too great of detail). That's not even mentioning the surrounding characters and their arcs, particularly those of Miek and Hiroim. Red King is also a fantastic villain, and everything involving the Spikes are incredible. World War Hulk also has some fun side-stories in it, and gives a great spotlight to some characters that usually don't get to have it. Hulk's assault on the X-Mansion might also be one of my favorite moments in all of comics.

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2. Doctor Strange and Doctor Doom: Triumph & Torment: This is another comic where I struggle to even begin to talk about what I like about it so much. I love seeing villains get to get genuine character development, especially when its in relation to their backstories, and I've always felt Doom has one of the better backstories in comics. A comic with the concept of Doom trying to do what he can to do some good related to his backstory by saving his mother's soul from Mephisto is a concept that had me hooked immediately. The storytelling here is nothing short of phenomenal, and if you haven't read this, you should. Having one of my favorite heroes in Doctor Strange also helps a ton, and his dynamic with Doom is so much fun to read, especially because of the fact that Doom, despite trying to do something good, isn't a good person here. If you want an incredible showcase of these two characters at some of their best writing with a damn good story that had permanent development for Doom, read this.

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1. Calvin & Hobbes: Calvin & Hobbes isn't excellent writing, it is pure childhood magic in written form. It's funny, witty, smart, well-written, genuine, heartfelt, and full of creativity and every emotion you might want from reading. The amount of depth that Bill Watterson managed to capture in characters that often only have four panels to display themselves is astounding to me. His artstyle is expressive, simple, iconic, and perfect for the charm and tone that he wanted to achieve, simultaneously being perfect for comedic moments like Calvin's snowmen and things that are hard enough to read like the racoon story. Calvin & Hobbes is one of the few pieces of media that actually has brought me to tears, which is really hard to do. I could go on and on and on about it, but to avoid just repeating myself over and over in different ways all I'll say is, if there's any one thing that I hope people seek out to read out of my top ten, it's this. I genuinely think Calvin & Hobbes is perfect by every rank and measure you could try to measure it by.​
 
Oh man this is a beautiful list. I’ll give my response soon as I can.
 
I've been keeping an eye on IDW Sonic (largely because they poached most of the staff of Archie Sonic from its later days) but it's nearly impossible to get your hands on issues in Australia by conventional means, unfortunately.
 
I've been keeping an eye on IDW Sonic (largely because they poached most of the staff of Archie Sonic from its later days) but it's nearly impossible to get your hands on issues in Australia by conventional means, unfortunately.

Is it any good?
 
Is it any good?
Hell yeah it is.

There are... aspects of it that I think it loses to Archie on, primarily because SEGA is being much stricter with their IP (understandably), so the massive world that Archie built up is gone for good and IDW's ability to build a new one is obviously a bit limited, but none of that has stopped it from being a good comic.
 
Hell yeah it is.

There are... aspects of it that I think it loses to Archie on, primarily because SEGA is being much stricter with their IP (understandably), so the massive world that Archie built up is gone for good and IDW's ability to build a new one is obviously a bit limited, but none of that has stopped it from being a good comic.

I heard Ian Flynn is writing for it, which doesn't inspire much confidence in me.
 
Conversely, that's one of the reasons I became interested in it, since Ian Flynn is an oldschool Sonic nerd so anything he writes is packed full of goodies and draws heavily on the franchise as a whole. That being said, I do know that his tenure at Archie was somewhat fractious with the fanbase, especially since he had to oversee not one but two universe retcons at SEGA's direction.
 
Conversely, that's one of the reasons I became interested in it, since Ian Flynn is an oldschool Sonic nerd so anything he writes is packed full of goodies and draws heavily on the franchise as a whole. That being said, I do know that his tenure at Archie was somewhat fractious with the fanbase, especially since he had to oversee not one but two universe retcons at SEGA's direction.

I wouldn't know anything about his treatment of Sonic, but I despise his work on Mega Man.
 
I wouldn't know anything about his treatment of Sonic, but I despise his work on Mega Man.

Oh yeah, the Mega Man comic had some issues, I was watching a retrospective thing about it recently. It's a shame, too, cause the stuff they had lined up looked really good.
 
Oh yeah, the Mega Man comic had some issues, I was watching a retrospective thing about it recently. It's a shame, too, cause the stuff they had lined up looked really good.

I haven't gotten to the end yet, but I doubt it.
 
I won't spoil it, but the last issue has them showing off concept work for adaptations that were planned and are never-to-be since they got cancelled.
 
as a long time comic book reader (as a kid i even collected dc and marvel trading cards), i recommend this one for being new, fun, and adventurous.
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why i like it? it's about this dude who accidentally was made an immortal and has an adventure throughout the ages in america. from cults, to monsters, he faces them. not to mention it focus on esoteric early american lores, myths, and legends too. i mean, his sidekick is a younger version of albert einstein.
 
I heard Ian Flynn is writing for it, which doesn't inspire much confidence in me.
Ian is now the head honcho for ALL sonic stuff. Not just the IDW comics, but the games too. They literally put a sonic fan in charge. The worst possible fate.
 
Ian is now the head honcho for ALL sonic stuff. Not just the IDW comics, but the games too. They literally put a sonic fan in charge. The worst possible fate.

Wow, I kinda feel bad for Sonic fans now. At least we Mega Man fans only have to deal with him when it comes to comic book stuff.
 
Wow, I kinda feel bad for Sonic fans now. At least we Mega Man fans only have to deal with him when it comes to comic book stuff.
Happened out of nowhere too. Literally no one foresaw a comic book writer being in charge of the games so it almost felt like Sega was just drawing straws because the previous two head writers (who only got the job thanks to nepotism) suddenly bailed off or got fired or something.
 
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I picked this up a week or two ago at a comic shop that also has a pretty nice selection of imports and indie stuff. The story itself is OK, it's pretty simple in what it tells but I absolutely adore the art style to pieces.
 
As for what I've been recently reading though, that's much easier to tell. In general I haven't really been keeping up with modern comic releases for a while, but I have been actively following the Absolute DC line so far.​
The setup with Darkseid made it sound like Absolute would be a "Darkseid Is" pit of despair, but you're right, it's just a modern revamp of the characters and the rest is pretext. It helps that so far it's been *damned good* revamps, too.
There's such an interesting evolution of folk hero vigilantes going back to The Scarlet Pimpernel, Zorro, The Shadow, The Phantom, Doc Savage, etc. The abundant violence was pretty much inherited too, from the various men's magazines and "penny dreadfuls" that the writers all drew inspiration from. The Clock is a funny one, the writer *liked* The Shadow but thought: Where does he torture people?

Fuck, yes.

The original Ultimate universe was mostly good, but did have some weird things in it.
Oh, y'all had a whole conversation about the Ultimate Marvel line, wild! I really struggled with most of those, and didn't have many favorites. U-Fantastic Four started out interesting, but it didn't take long to be the Reed Richards Show. (Carried on to this day with him being the "Maker" of the new Ultimate universe). U*Spider-Man was another one I bounced off of, I don't really think of him as a teenager.

Ultimate universe was ultimately very weird. I’m not the biggest marvel geek so the original context behind the ultimate universe always gets lost on me. Why did marvel feel the need of making what’s functionally a soft reboot? What, would copying infinite crisis be too on the nose?
Mr. Daddy answered this pretty clearly, I just want to add that the question "How do we attract new readers who don't know the continuity" has been the Great Conundrum of American comics for decades. Crisis on Infinite Earths was one attempt, a line-wide reboot for a fresh start. Ultimate Marvel was inspired by that effort, they just figured they could have their "decades of comics"-flavored cake and eat it too!

Edit: Shit, Octopus pretty much said the same further down. That cephalopod knows what it's talking about!


The Ultimates was *extremely* satirical, Mark Millar had a lot of fun using the Avengers to talk about the Bush-era GWOT. The well-known quote above came out the same year that we changed the Congressional cafeteria menu to say "Freedom Toast" and "Freedom Fries"; it's not so much "America, Fuck Yeah!" as it is "Yeah, Fuck America!" It's a loud and nasty take on a big American summer action movie. The artwork kinda exacerbates the whole thing too, Bryan Hitch was a big part of that "widescreen comics" visual change and they went really on the nose with the "actors" too. (Remember how Norman Osborn was just Tommy Lee Jones for awhile?)

...all that said, I don't actually like them that much! Millar is probably mainstream comics biggest provocateur, but he's always trying so hard to get a rise out of people; it's just exhausting after a point.

Ultimatum was...shit, I've got nothing nice to say about that book. A lot of people die but it feels empty and pointless, which is made worse by the big reveal at the end about mutants. "Meaningless" is kinda the theme of the book, which I guess it nails to it's...credit? (There's probably something to be said about writer Jeph Loeb and his personal life, having tragically lost his son Sam a couple years prior. He wrote some very touching stories dealing with that initially, and then went through a pretty dark period creatively....then again, maybe he thought this was good? I dunno, psycho-analysis is probably best left out of it).

Speaking of ultimate universe, Secret wars was really weird cuz it was basically marvel trying to have a crisis but without the universe reset
Killing off the ultimate universe was extremely dumb

Yeah, pretty much! There's honestly a really fun story in Secret Wars at it's core - involving Doom and Reed Richards primarily - but from an editorial standpoint the goal seems to have been "Make Miles Marvel". Miles Morales was the part of the Ultimate line they wanted to keep, and Hickman had been building that whole story for years at that point.

Like most event books, Secret Wars suffers from too large a scope; everything from the multiverse to the Infinity Gems to the Avengers and more actually turn out to be superfluous. It's really the end of Hickmans Fantastic Four story, and the clashing personalities of Reed and Doom. That would be fine, if I hadn't been buying years worth of other comics about other characters in the lead-up! At least the T'challa stuff kinda kicks ass, and the actual "sandbox" of Battleworld - Doom's new universe after the old one blows up - was a cool excuse for literally any story a creative team could offer.

Wolverine's still mostly the same but really more into the underage girls, etc.
Ughhhhh, thanks for reminding me! They took the whole Logan/Kitty Pride dynamic and gave it the "Batman and Robin are fucking!" treatment.
Ultimate Thor is awesome, I really dig the whole "okay, is he reincarnated Thor or is he a just a crazy person?" angle they had with him.
A lot of the Ultimates are some form of satire, but U*Thor was just a really fun idea. U*Hulk was definitely less fun, but it was kind of ahead of it's time for that particular kind of *guy*. He's practically an incel!
I was going to post the also infamous panel of Cap finding out Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are 'like like' into each other, when I started realising almost every infamous Ultimate thing is a weird sex thing.
The most upsetting part of that was still The Wasp talking about incest like Cap was a caveman for being weirded out.

Alright I think I've largely collected my thoughts for my top ten comics. I will be including a few comic strips here, because I like them enough that it would just feel wrong of me to leave them out or to include them in an honorable mention or something.​
That's a great list you got there! Triumph and Torment is probably my favorite Doctor Strange story...and maybe my favorite Doc Doom tale for that matter, it's fantastic!

I feel you on that, pretty much everything you said about the 'prep time' meme I can get behind. I feel he's been flanderized a little bit ever since New 52 honestly. I'm also not a big fan of an extended, constant Bat-family which has been the status quo seemingly for awhile now (I guess since Batman Inc more or less). A few members here and there, a Batgirl or a Robin or two I'm fine with but then you got Spoiler and then a Red Hood and a Batwoman and another Batwoman and you've lost me.
I think Grant Morrison was the only person who really did the "prep-time Batgod" thing right, seeing as he's largely responsible for it. Even then, he still writes Batman getting his ass beat pretty regularly!

I also think it's a bit of a crutch for comic book writers. Not to sound like a bitch, but writing mysteries is hard, and Batman has to solve them by the end; I imagine it's a lot easier if you can just say the Caped Crusader figured that shit out hours ago, he didn't need clues or a coherently plotted web of intrigue!

(I like the extended Bat family, but I haven't read a single story that makes me glad Jason Todd came back to life).

I've been keeping an eye on IDW Sonic (largely because they poached most of the staff of Archie Sonic from its later days) but it's nearly impossible to get your hands on issues in Australia by conventional means, unfortunately.
Fake would love this. (Personally I've read like two issues recently and mostly felt confused, the cast is enormous and I don't know a one of 'em).

Is it any good?
Oh there he is!

I saw Geoff Johns was writing a "Highlander", I've got a few issues set aside to try. (It's been way on the back burner, his DC stuff was pretty grim for years). Glad to hear someone enjoyed it though, I'm excited to thumb through it!

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I picked this up a week or two ago at a comic shop that also has a pretty nice selection of imports and indie stuff. The story itself is OK, it's pretty simple in what it tells but I absolutely adore the art style to pieces.
Completely unknown to me but I adore that cover image!
 

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