Anybody here into like oldschool 80s industrial music?

[Mago]

The 80s industrial scene scene is one of my favorites. Lots of creativity, vibes, and utter despair. Maybe not a cohesive scene since there's debate on who and who shouldn't be classified as industrial, but a lot of my favorite music is linked to it. My favorite industrial group is Controlled bleeding ofcourse they were hardly just industrial, its what i tend to associate them most with. Ofcourse I also love Einsturzende Neubauten, Coil, Skinny Puppy, Throbbing Gristle (More 70s I know), Cabaret Voltaire, SPK, Front 242, Dissecting Table, Chu Ishikawa, Ramleh, and a lot of others.

 

[goregoregoregoregoregore]

Fuck yeah, and i think oldschool industrial stuff influenced a ton of stuff from there on. I love artists that took that industrial sound a bit further too, famously Autechre, and all the more industrial stuff of Meat Beat Manifesto
Speaking of Meat Beat Manifesto, i love this colab they did with Merzbow and this video 1 year ago, grinds my gears

 

[DunkeyKong]

The classic

 

[Mago]

Fuck yeah, and i think oldschool industrial stuff influenced a ton of stuff from there on. I love artists that took that industrial sound a bit further too, famously Autechre, and all the more industrial stuff of Meat Beat Manifesto
Speaking of Meat Beat Manifesto, i love this colab they did with Merzbow and this video 1 year ago, grinds my gears

Yo that's pretty rad yo!

 

[Bonkers225]

Fan of Ministry's work from the 80's to early 90's.

 

[Mago]

The classic

A-ha might be a lil too brutal and disturbing for me

 

[Strategist's iconStrategist]

I grew up in the 90's and was a fan of Nine Inch Nails, so that took me down the industrial rabbit hole. I found that I dug Ministry and Skinny Puppy, since those were the bands Trent Reznor was ripping off. But aside from that I didn't dig into the genre that much.

 

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Nurse with Wound baybeh.

oh n I do a toplist every year for the Metal Storm site - Merzbow/Meat Beat Manifesto is in my top 50 for last year:

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[Mago]

I grew up in the 90's and was a fan of Nine Inch Nails, so that took me down the industrial rabbit hole. I found that I dug Ministry and Skinny Puppy, since those were the bands Trent Reznor was ripping off. But aside from that I didn't dig into the genre that much.

Theres a lot of great stuff though a lot of it even less accessible in sound compared to those groups. Have you tried Godflesh and Coil?

 

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Nurse with Wound baybeh.

oh n I do a toplist every year for the Metal Storm site - Merzbow/Meat Beat Manifesto is in my top 50 for last year:

Prnzo Givin 2024 The What-FoR!!!

List by prnzokoshiroltra

metalstorm.net

Ok, this is a nice fucking list

 

[Strategist's iconStrategist]

Theres a lot of great stuff though a lot of it even less accessible in sound compared to those groups. Have you tried Godflesh and Coil?

Coil sounds vagely familiar, I think I've heard it, but I'm not sure if I'm confusing it with Lacuna Coil, lol.

 

[miguk]

I was a big fan of Nine Inch Ͷails, Ministry, Skinny Puppy, and KMFDM when I was younger. I sometimes even listened to some of the pop-wannabes like Stabbing Westward and Gravity Kills when I couldn't find anything else new to listen to. (Although unlike the earlier mentioned bands, I don't listen to those two any more.) I eventually found more of the older bands and sometimes listen to them as well.

Anyways, if you want to get into the genre or just want a better understanding of it, I recommend this video from Trash Theory (probably the best rock history channel on YouTube):

 

[Strategist's iconStrategist]

I was a big fan of Nine Inch Ͷails, Ministry, Skinny Puppy, and KMFDM when I was younger. I sometimes even listened to some of the pop-wannabes like Stabbing Westward and Gravity Kills when I couldn't find anything else new to listen to. (Although unlike the earlier mentioned bands I don't listen to those two any more.) I eventually found more of the older bands and sometimes listen to them as well.

Anyways, if you want to get into the genre or just want a better understanding of it, I recommend this video from Trash Theory (probably the best rock history channel on YouTube):

Ah wow, yeah KMFDM was solid too. Those were the bands I liked as well since they were closer to the Nine Inch Nails/Marylin Manson sound.

 

[Mago]

Coil sounds vagely familiar, I think I've heard it, but I'm not sure if I'm confusing it with Lacuna Coil, lol.

Could be either or lol. Coil isnt super obscure but not super well known either I don't think. Horse Rotorvator and Ape of Naples are classics though.

 

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Ok, this is a nice fucking list

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thnx - here are the previous lists goin back to 2019 (just updated the 2023 one right now - forgot I left that one hangin xD ) - I started toplisting in 2014 but need to go back to old pads that contain the lists from 2014-2018

 

[middler]

I am a long time fan of Industrial music and its pre-cursors:
Laibach
Gary Numan/ Tubeway Army
Kraftwerk

lots of great early stuff out there!

 

[miguk]

Gary Numan/ Tubeway Army

Tubeway/Numan were actually synthpop, as strange as that designation for them seems. Numan wasn't actually an industrial artist until after Trent Reznor covered him and he realized he wanted to do stuff more like his work. They even played shows together as a result.

But honestly, Tubeway Army definitely did have somewhat of an industrial-like feel to them, especially with "Down at the Park". (Warning: NSFW lyrics)

 

[middler]

Tubeway/Numan were actually synthpop, as strange as that designation for them seems. Numan wasn't actually an industrial artist until after Trent Reznor covered him and he realized he wanted to do stuff more like his work. They even played shows together as a result.

But honestly, Tubeway Army definitely did have somewhat of an industrial-like feel to them, especially with "Down at the Park". (Warning: NSFW lyrics)

True, it was, but without synthpop, industrial would have remained noise/avantgarde cacophonous mess that Kraftwerk were trying to pull away from. They used most of the same equipment and mostly the same tone. It was a undeniable pillar of the genre, you can really hear it in songe like "Are Friends Electric" and indeed "Down in the Park"

 

[Mago]

True, it was, but without synthpop, industrial would have remained noise/avantgarde cacophonous mess that Kraftwerk were trying to pull away from. They used most of the same equipment and mostly the same tone. It was a undeniable pillar of the genre, you can really hear it in songe like "Are Friends Electric" and indeed "Down in the Park"

I love cacophonous messes though

Also there was stuff like Iggy Pops The Idiot at the time which is like early industrial rock kinda.

 

[miguk]

True, it was, but without synthpop, industrial would have remained noise/avantgarde cacophonous mess that Kraftwerk were trying to pull away from. They used most of the same equipment and mostly the same tone. It was a undeniable pillar of the genre, you can really hear it in songe like "Are Friends Electric" and indeed "Down in the Park"

Ya, the difference between the two genres is pretty hard to separate at times given that the early artists were contemporaries to each other and sometimes using similar instruments. But industrial got a bit more out-there with the instruments than synthpop, while synthpop (by the release of "Are Friends Electric?") managed to break the mainstream barrier much faster, partially by figuring out how to do a poppier beat earlier, and partially because Numan was better looking than his other contemporaries. (That's actually why the band changed their name to his.)

And speaking of Trash Theory videos, they have one on Numan and synthpop, too:

 

[middler]

Ya, the difference between the two genres is pretty hard separate at times given that the early artists were contemporaries to each other and sometimes using similar instruments. But industrial got a bit more out-there with the instruments than synthpop, while synthpop (by the release of "Are Friends Electric?") managed to break the mainstream barrier much faster, partially by figuring out how to do a poppier beat earlier, and partially because Numan was better looking than his other contemporaries. (That's actually why the band changed their name to his.)

Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to call Numan/Tubeway industrial, just that they were a precursor all be it a very important one. You mentioned that Numan wasn't an industrial artist until he colabed with NIN he was definitely playing with it well before Reznor was around:

 

[miguk]

Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to call Numan/Tubeway industrial, just that they were a precursor all be it a very important one. You mentioned that Numan wasn't an industrial artist until he colabed with NIN he was definitely playing with it well before Reznor was around:

"Metal" is the exact song NIͶ covered. And yes, you could consider it industrial, given that the beat and some aspects of the instrumentation resemble the genre, but Numan's work as a whole became way more like that after the NIͶ collaboration. The rest of what he did around that time was more like "Cars" than "Metal".

 

[middler]

"Metal" is the exact song NIͶ covered. And yes, you could consider it industrial, given that the beat and some aspects of the instrumentation resemble the genre, but Numan's work as a whole became way more like that after the NIͶ collaboration. The rest of what he did around that time was more like "Cars" than "Metal".

Absolutley, Numan did embrace industrial later on. "My Name is Ruin" was fantastic. You know his daughter is making music now?

not sure what i think of it just yet.

 

[Antilocal123]

Yep, love industrial.

Hideki Matsutake
Los Iniciados
Coil
Front 242

Lovely genre.

 

[Kyyo]

Absolutely. I have some recommendations.

Grim - Vital 1983-89
7 From Life - Souls Of Dead Sharks
Navicon Torture Technologies - Pure-Skin
The classic, Ramleh - Hole In The Heart
Controlled Bleeding - Knees and Bones