Any recommendations for hip hop/grime/uk rap

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I'm realising how much I love it again, would love to hear any anecdotal stories you have and some recommendations for albums or artists. I hope you have a empowering day.
 
Hip-hop, of all popular music forms (with the exception of bubblegum pop), is probably the genre with the most disloyal fanbase to its legacy. There's a lot of old school hip-hop that gets so little respect from the genre's fans that artists' careers frequently nosedive a few years after the peak. Really, you've got 2 kinds of rappers who get to stay in business for more than a decade: embarrassing sellouts (Snoop, Dre) and those who are endlessly referenced (Eminem, Tupac). Meanwhile, I can go see a concert by an old rock band as obscure as Superdrag because even they have enough of a loyal following to thrive.

Some recommendations to get your history on:
  • Sugar Hill Gang (basically the original hip-hop group; "Rapper's Delight" is the OG hit)
  • Run-DMC (start with "It's Tricky", "Christmas in Hollis", or "Walk This Way")
  • Grandmaster Flash (start with "The Message")
  • Public Enemy (start with "Fight the Power")
  • Onyx (start with "Slam")
  • Warren G (start with "Regulate")
  • Tupac (ignore his diss tracks; "Keep Ya Head Up" is a good starting point)
  • Digital Underground (start with "The Humpty Dance")
  • Biz Markie (start with "Just a Friend")
  • MC Hammer (start with "U Can't Touch This" or "2 Legit 2 Quit")
  • Kris Kross (start with "Jump")
  • Snow (just "Informer"; regardless of quality, it needs to be heard)
Don't be afraid to look into the New Jack Swing genre either. It's not considered authentic hip-hop by most (gangsta rap artists campaigned to destroy it), but it was a unique spin-off genre that's worth a glance at minimum.
 
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I second Public Enemy.
 
Tempz, I'm not British but Next Hype lives in my head
true connoisseur, thats what im saying
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Hip-hop, of all popular music forms (with the exception of bubblegum pop), is probably the genre with the most disloyal fanbase to its legacy. There's a lot of old school hip-hop that gets so little respect from the genre's fans that artists' careers frequently nosedive a few years after the peak. Really, you've got 2 kinds of rappers who get to stay in business for more than a decade: embarrassing sellouts (Snoop, Dre) and those who are endlessly referenced (Eminem, Tupac). Meanwhile, I can go see a concert by an old rock band as obscure as Superdrag because even they have enough of a loyal following to thrive.

Some recommendations to get your history on:
  • Sugar Hill Gang (basically the original hip-hop group; "Rapper's Delight" is the OG hit)
  • Run-DMC (start with "It's Tricky", "Christmas in Hollis", or "Walk This Way")
  • Grandmaster Flash (start with "The Message")
  • Public Enemy (start with "Fight the Power")
  • Onyx (start with "Slam")
  • Warren G (start with "Regulate")
  • Tupac (ignore his diss tracks; "Keep Ya Head Up" is a good starting point)
  • Digital Underground (start with "The Humpty Dance")
  • Biz Markie (start with "Just a Friend")
  • MC Hammer (start with "U Can't Touch This" or "2 Legit 2 Quit")
  • Kris Kross (start with "Jump")
  • Snow (just "Informer"; regardless of quality, it needs to be heard)
Don't be afraid to look into the New Jack Swing genre either. It's not considered authentic hip-hop by most (gangsta rap artists campaigned to destroy it), but it was a unique spin-off genre that's worth a glance at minimum.
Highly disrespected by this... "start with you can't touch this!" bruvva what. Nah man, you completely misinpreted what a brudda was saying. You just gave what you think people who like rap music are supposed to like. If you just named these artists I would of been fine with that but fuck me. Loyalty is earned mf.
 
Highly disrespected by this... "start with you can't touch this!" bruvva what. Nah man, you completely misinpreted what a brudda was saying. You just gave what you think people who like rap music are supposed to like. If you just named these artists I would of been fine with that but fuck me. Loyalty is earned mf.
I don't see what the disrespect is. If you were paying attention to how things went back in the day (and still do), you'd notice it's accurate. Chris Rock had a whole stand-up bit about it (and he is a huge fan), and no hip-hop artist called him out on being wrong.

Nope, didn't just give what you I think people would like; I gave what people did like. And I made some exclusions, but I'm not going to argue that LL Cool J or Ice Cube (more sellouts) deserve respect. Call that biased if you want, but the list was meant to be an intro, not an encyclopedia.

I named songs because some people don't know where to start and won't always find definitive songs first. The top hits are, in many cases, exactly what to start with, as a lot of musicians (in popular music in general, but quite often in hip-hop) are just one-hit wonders. If you want to do a deep dive, you are free to do so; no one said to stop anywhere.

"Loyalty is earned" is such a nonsense phrase. It's the "eat, pray, love" of the street. If a musician makes good music and isn't a jerk, isn't that enough? I get you don't like MC Hammer; fine, no one said you have to like everything mentioned. Feel free to tell us what you consider the greats of old-school hip-hop so we can see what your standards really are.
 
true connoisseur, thats what im saying
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Highly disrespected by this... "start with you can't touch this!" bruvva what. Nah man, you completely misinpreted what a brudda was saying. You just gave what you think people who like rap music are supposed to like. If you just named these artists I would of been

I don't see what the disrespect is. If you were paying attention to how things went back in the day (and still do), you'd notice it's accurate. Chris Rock had a whole stand-up bit about it (and he is a huge fan), and no hip-hop artist called him out on being wrong.

Nope, didn't just give what you I think people would like; I gave what people did like. And I made some exclusions, but I'm not going to argue that LL Cool J or Ice Cube (more sellouts) deserve respect. Call that biased if you want, but the list was meant to be an intro, not an encyclopedia.

I named songs because some people don't know where to start and won't always find definitive songs first. The top hits are, in many cases, exactly what to start with, as a lot of musicians (in popular music in general, but quite often in hip-hop) are just one-hit wonders. If you want to do a deep dive, you are free to do so; no one said to stop anywhere.

"Loyalty is earned" is such a nonsense phrase. It's the "eat, pray, love" of the street. If a musician makes good music and isn't a jerk, isn't that enough? I get you don't like MC Hammer; fine, no one said you have to like everything mentioned. Feel free to tell us what you consider the greats of old-school hip-hop so we can see what your standards really are.
bro u recommended me to listen to you can't touch this unironically like i havent heard it before lol
 
bro u recommended me to listen to you can't touch this unironically like i havent heard it before lol
Yes, because MC Hammer was a major hip-hop artist. I get that he's on the poppier side of things, but that doesn't mean he didn't have a place in history. Plus, early hip-hop (70s to mid 80s) was 100% block party pop. The people who reject that stuff as "unauthentic" are ignoring history.

Also, I recommended "Informer" by Snow. Feel free to "bruuvv" me all you want on that one; it's meant to help avoid the "things were better back in the day" nostalgia effect, because, as I pointed out, some artist just weren't. Actual history isn't all winners. You could have considered that before copping an attitude over just one song.

And again, let's see your cred. Pull out your old-school playlist and step up. If you decline, I'm going to assume you are fronting.
 
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