A Devil May Cry Remake is Unnecessary

[IyoTheHelpfulWolf]

So appearantly Devil May Cry 1 is being remade. As a longtime fan...I don't think a remake is necessary. The first game plays mostly fine and it's often found cheap as fuck on most platforms. Plus, the quirks that come from it's roots as a Resident Evil 4 prototype are part of it's charm and gives it it's own identity, and I worry that a remake might polish the game so much that said aspects are lost. I would much rather Capcom just make Devil May Cry 6 or a prequel about the life of Sparda.

 

[RanmyakuIchi's iconRanmyakuIchi]

I'm guessing if Kamiya is involved than a DMC1 remake was the best Capcom could coax out of him. He's been pretty clear in the past that he doesn't want to make a DMC sequel as he considers it Itsuno's series now.

 

[Muklas]

I'd argue that making remakes of good old games in general is pointless and only serves to make those companies money via name recognition, the most that should be done is making them work properly on current systems, if you're gonna do stuff like update graphics just go and make a new game instead.

 

[TheGamesArchivist]

See, while I respect the idea that the original should be preserved as it is (or at least, the HD version), a Remake isn't really that bad an idea. The original DMC plays slow, clunky, and sluggish. It took 3 entries before they would finally hit that sweet spot for pacing and combat flow.

I feel like, if they gave us a remake, kept the story 1:1, but improved the combat engine and visuals? It could be a good run. Like, sometimes, you gotta take off the rose tinted glasses, and accept that - in all honesty - DMC1 has not aged well. It's a novelty. Going from 5 to 1 feels like strapping lead weights to your feet, and sucking damn near every drop of bravado and personality out of Dante.

But that's just one man's opinion.

 

[Hikari.EXE]

They are remaking DMC 1? How will that work? Will the gameplay be something more akin to DMC 3 or Bayonetta 1, since the first game is really barebones compared to the rest of the other games (hell, even more barebones than DMC 2)

 

[Nidstang]

I agree. I'm honestly sick of the remake trend. It more often results in an inferior gameplay experience that is overlooked because of the shiny new paint job, and it discourages new players from playing the original games.
The original Devil May Cry is a great game as is. It's extremely easy available on all modern consoles and PC already too. What would be the point? I'd rather these game companies used the time, money, and resources remaking bad games instead of good games, or better yet, investing in actual sequels or new IPs.
Devil May Cry 6 would be much preferable to a Devil May Cry 1 Remake. Hell, a DmC: Devil May Cry 2 would be preferable to a Devil May Cry 1 Remake.

 

[RetroLaw]

It totally is.

As much as I love the game, it has a lots of issues that can be fixed with a remake.

The combat is not really good, it's fine for a more action oriented Resident Evil game (which is the way to look at the original), but doesn't have the depth, style and player expression that the series is known for since the 3rd installement.

Lots of specific parts can use improvements : the fight on the boat, the water segments were super bland, some boss are underwhelming (for example Phantom was cool back then but now, gameplay wise, nothing really interesting, same for that annoying boss with bad camera angle and the need to hit some mural mecanism, the bird fight was just stupid bazooka spam etc...), the game is overall really clanky and doesn't work that well as an action game.

If they do this right, remaking it to give it the flair of the series since 3, it will be an great game.

They really need to remake the second one too.

 

[Sir Auriel of Lionel]

A remaster would be a cheaper product and would keep your fans happy. I don't see the point unless it's hoping to make new fans but I worry they're still ashamed of old Dante's humor and will nip it out. Don't fix what isn't broken.

 

[RanmyakuIchi's iconRanmyakuIchi]

I'm guessing it's an olive branch to fans as a DMC6 is probably still a ways off. I can't imagine Kamiya's willing to do it, and even if he were I'm not sure he's right for it. He and Itsuno have/had very different ideas for the series.

 

[Shoju5110]

I guess it wouldn't be a bad idea, I mean I kinda like the first game in the way it is because it feels like something from the time and its own thing, but getting to see it on a different perspective sounds interesting enough. That being said I feel like a game that could benefit more from a remake would be DMC2 for reasons that those who have already played it can guess why

 

[Mork]

I can imagine Capcom going: Of course Kamiya-san, we'll let you work on Okami 2 and a new IP. Heck, we'll even let you make God Hand 2! Huh?
Kamiya's all like: Woah, you actually got Mikami-san on board for this?
Capcom flatly says: who's Mikami?

 

[IyoTheHelpfulWolf]

See, while I respect the idea that the original should be preserved as it is (or at least, the HD version), a Remake isn't really that bad an idea. The original DMC plays slow, clunky, and sluggish. It took 3 entries before they would finally hit that sweet spot for pacing and combat flow.

I feel like, if they gave us a remake, kept the story 1:1, but improved the combat engine and visuals? It could be a good run. Like, sometimes, you gotta take off the rose tinted glasses, and accept that - in all honesty - DMC1 has not aged well. It's a novelty. Going from 5 to 1 feels like strapping lead weights to your feet, and sucking damn near every drop of bravado and personality out of Dante.

But that's just one man's opinion.

It has problems, but I just don't think it has aged poorly enough to justify spending resources on a remake. The combat doesn't feel sluggish to me. It's simpler and not quite as fast, but it still feels tight and responsive. I never feel like the controls are the reason I get my ass kicked. Also, something about the animation and sound design gives attacks a distinctive "crunch" and impact that, again, gives it a different feel from later games. The slightly slower pace and art direction also gives it a darker atmosphere that later games don't really have as much of.

To be fair, it is not perfect, and later games have indeed learned from it's shortcomings. The camera occasionally causes me to get backshots from off screen, especially if I'm not listening very carefully for sound cues. Nightmare is the worst offender. Fuck that thing. It should burn in hell right next to Elden Beast. The voice acting is hammy as fuck and not always in a way that seems deliberate like later games would do, and while Dante's attitude is present, it's much more subdued than later games.

I don't like to call DMC1 a novelty, as that carries a connotation of disposability. To me, DMC1 is the dish I love cooked a little differently. If 3-5 are gourmet dining, DmC was a confused hipster bar experiment and 2 had less seasoning than a school cafeteria lunch, DMC1 is a good ol' steak at the neighbors place. Not 5 star dining, but the ol boy does something to those steaks that keeps you coming back every cookout.

 

[sunofpearl89]

"Unnecessary" describes most remakes for sure. My kneejerk reaction is typically something like "are new age gamers really too stupid to figure this modern-enough 2000s game out that they need everything to be updated?" It was my reaction to RE4 remake. I still haven't bothered with that one.

Though, at the end of the day, as long as the original game is still being sold or easily available by other means, I can't make myself outraged if I tried. In fact, it's a perfect excuse for the devs working on a new version to make whatever unhinged creative decisions they feel like to surprise the returning fans. Just don't try to make the original obsolete.

 

[J.F.C]

Any remake of a good game is unnecessary. I could get behind remaking shit if the games that were getting remakes were flawed games with good ideas that could use some of the polishing and gameplay revamps a remake provides or if they made significant changes from the source material and made you view that game in a whole new light (like with Resident Evil 2's ), but I doubt Capcom will change DMC 1 all that much since they are a bunch of lazy fuckers nowadays and will just slap DMC V's combat into the game and make Dante do "funny quips" every 30 seconds and call it a Remake, or they won't change anything at all and just give the game new graphics that aren't much of an improvement, redo the voice acting, add a new camera and call it day like they with the Dead Rising "Remake".

 

[Sweetmint]

So appearantly Devil May Cry 1 is being remade. As a longtime fan...I don't think a remake is necessary. The first game plays mostly fine and it's often found cheap as fuck on most platforms. Plus, the quirks that come from it's roots as a Resident Evil 4 prototype are part of it's charm and gives it it's own identity, and I worry that a remake might polish the game so much that said aspects are lost. I would much rather Capcom just make Devil May Cry 6 or a prequel about the life of Sparda.

i mean i can understand if a remake makes it more popular or whatever but yeah it's probably unnecessary if it's already been ported or if they change it too much it's not like the original game anymore kinda like RE4. Speaking of ports/remakes this collection made me just play the original games lol they don't even put GX or 5ds games from the ds in the collection i know it's supposed to be the 20th anniversary or whatever but GX & 5ds are highly praised today. They'll probably never see a port ever. I mean not that it matters because these games are preserved but still rip offical players who wanted it. Sorry for going a bit off topic. (GX had both gba & ds games)

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[Ian Naxieas]

No... please don't touch my baby, Capcom. Well I guess it's technically their baby, but I adopted it goddamnit.

I don't like to call DMC1 a novelty, as that carries a connotation of disposability.

Novelty is faaaaaar from what it is anyway. It's a watershed moment in gaming that basically created a new genre and is a certifiable classic. Capcom and others done admirably in refining the gameplay of the series for sure, but it's fine as is. We can play DMC5 if we want a game that plays like DMC5. Just leave the original alone, it isn't hurting anybody.

Just don't try to make the original obsolete.

This is my biggest fear with any and all remakes. It won't be a big a problem for people like us, we have very sneaky ways to play the originals, but new players will probably go for the newest version of something. The amount of people who care about preservation is way less than the amount who just want to consume product with no hassle. That kind of thinking is why you have to jump through hoops and use fan restorations to see the original Star Wars trilogy without the icky Special Edition changes. But do you think anyone who streams them on Disney+ cares? Sure, a handful of people do, but most people just want to see the movies with as little hassle as possible. Anyway, I'm preaching to the choir. TL;DR: Fuck you, George Lucas.

 

[Sweetmint]

No... please don't touch my baby, Capcom. Well I guess it's technically their baby, but I adopted it goddamnit.


Novelty is faaaaaar from what it is anyway. It's a watershed moment in gaming that basically created a new genre and is a certifiable classic. Capcom and others done admirably in refining the gameplay of the series for sure, but it's fine as is. We can play DMC5 if we want a game that plays like DMC5. Just leave the original alone, it isn't hurting anybody.

This is my biggest fear with any and all remakes. It won't be a big a problem for people like us, we have very sneaky ways to play the originals, but new players will probably go for the newest version of something. The amount of people who care about preservation is way less than the amount who just want to consume product with no hassle. That kind of thinking is why you have to jump through hoops and use fan restorations to see the original Star Wars trilogy without the icky Special Edition changes. But do you think anyone who streams them on Disney+ cares? Sure, a handful of people do, but most people just want to see the movies with as little hassle as possible. Anyway, I'm preaching to the choir. TL;DR: Fuck you George Lucas.

To me capcom died with Monster hunter world and it's been getting worse since then.

 

[regnor]

I agree that DMC1 is actually still an excellent game. I much prefer it over DMC3 and later games because of the higher difficulty and atmosphere. I actually managed to beat it on DMD even. The main issue with the game were some of the camera angles. But if they did a remake now, they'd probably totally change everything about it. It would basically be a new game but with the same overall plot (like RE2 and RE3 "remakes").

 

[Gamma]

A Remake is unecessary, yes, but if Kamiya is the one doing it and i would be interested on seeing how he would do it... probably putting more Space Harrier stages?

I'd rather finally see a Sparda game.

 

[Somnia]

It's a shame because I doubt they'll improve upon the fixed camera and slower combat and instead opt to just make it a DMC4/5 type of game. I definitely agree it doesn't need a remake (most games don't) but the fact that there is no real chance of them not trying to reinvent everything that DMC1 was makes me pre-emptively sad and pessimistic.

Prime example are the RE2 and RE3 remakes. I like them both despite 3's cut content but it will always be sad to me that the RE1 remake on Gamecube was one of the greatest games ever made and instead of simply improving on the fixed camera/tank control style of gameplay in the originals we just got a totally different game with over the shoulder controls. On one hand this is great because I do think remakes should do new things, but on the other I feel like going from fixed camera to over the shoulder is such a fundamental shift that I'd rather them not even bother.

Though I also suppose I wouldn't mind so much if Capcom would port RE2 and RE3 to fucking anything aside from the recent GOG PC releases. The fact that OG RE4 and OG DMC1 are likely always gonna be readily available on a ton of different systems legally makes it easier to forgive a remake that does anything super drastic.