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Message: [QUOTE="nobitakun, post: 213762, member: 56864"] I can't argue what actual numbers show. People don't mind paying for playing online as long as they receive extras that are worth it. You describe it like you were just paying for playing online, nothing more, and the monthly subscription was aeons better than the PSN. To sum things up, with 360 you got better online stability and the games that were free as a Gold member are yours forever, even if you cancel your subscription. On the contrary, PSN Plus free games can only be played as long as you have a valid subscription, so you are "renting them". I don't like paying for playing, but clearly Microsoft knew how to make things with 360, until One came out and screwed everything up. Also, it's true that 360 had many consoles with the red ring of death, as well as phat PS3's had their heat issues. But I've yet to see a 360 with HDMI port to fail, and I've seen many of them. My first 360 is Elite, from 2007 and never ever had any issue with it, then I bought an Arcade from 2008, which was a Falcon model, and I also had 0 issues. All my friends, known people and places where I went that had a 360 with an HDMI port never had any issue, so I don't think it was better or worse than PS3. [/QUOTE]

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