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Message: [QUOTE="Ikagura, post: 13969, member: 6930"] I'd argue that while Duke is a macho (in the strict sense) his Duke3D incarnation was actually much more nuanced than the flanderized version we got in Forever. He was video game Johnny Bravo in a way. I still prefer characters such as Caleb and Doomguy myself. Then you have some people having weird takes like calling Mario or Link sexist because they both save a damsel in distress (although Zelda herself became much more independent and strong in the later games). Yes, they want to make themselves look better without making actual efforts (as usual on the net in the last decade). Yes, even something actually progressive for its time could be deemed outdated (like Star Trek). I do appreciate the books but I keep that mindset of its epoch. The movies got "softer" with the Moore era (which was also much more comedic). Brosnan's first movie, Goldeneye, had M calling him a "sexist, misogynistic dinosaur from the Cold War era" perhaps as an apology for the franchise having some backward views on things. [/QUOTE]

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