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Message: [QUOTE="Deleted member 623180, post: 213482, member: 623180"] Can't speak for everyone else but they are the gold standard for me when it comes to the PS2 era. They re-created what games could be with the blend of more real world simulation(ish) situations and settings compared to the more cartoonish and fantasy styles of other games. I love Zelda, Mario, etc. but these games hit way different for me at my late teen era of life and captured me more than anything else. So I'd say it's a personal thing. I'm not putting them on a pedestal as much as I'm just stating they were a major reason for me putting the PS2 catalog up as the best gaming catalog. [/QUOTE]

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