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Message: [QUOTE="Phage, post: 165126, member: 3302"] Because it's been a problem for damn near 20 years at this point. To show my age a bit, "back in the day", you pre-ordered a game because you wanted to ensure you had a copy on release day and your local store needed to know how many to order to fulfill those orders plus a few extras to keep on the shelf for folks that didn't. These games were delivered on disc or cartridge and publishers knew that if they fucked up, they fucked up for good. If their game was shit, it was gonna be shit forever. Just look at Superman 64 and the fact that it's *still* held up as the poster child of all bad games. That's not to say that bad games didn't still happen, but we knew that we were at least getting a complete and functional game. Skip forward to about 20 years ago and the advent of the first ever DLC, the infamous Oblivion Horse Armor. We all knew it was BS and it was openly mocked. We also knew that it would lead to wide-spread fuckery. Within a span of a couple years, we started getting games that were shipped incomplete or so buggy as to be unplayable. People were still clinging to the pre-order model because it's what we'd always done. If we didn't get our pre-order in then we wouldn't get to play the new Zelda for a couple weeks because it would be sold out everywhere! We were still pre-ordering and basically handing companies full-price for a game before it was even finished, only to be handed a pile of slop that didn't work at all, or was only half-finished. Imagine if you paid a restaurant in advance for your meal and they only brought half of the table food, and some of it was burnt and/or undercooked. You'd be pretty pissed and likely demand a refund, and if told that you wouldn't be given one, you'd promise to never do it again. That's why we hate pre-orders. In the current age where games are releasing in "early access", which is a really fancy way to say "Pay full price for a beta build that may or may not ever get out of beta", pre-orders are seen as a way for companies to demand full price for a product without actually having to deliver a quality product. If you pay them in advance and the game is trash, what do they care? They got theirs. There was a *huge* movement years ago to stop pre-ordering anything ever, because it was encouraging this behavior, and more and more games that people pre-ordered were coming out with day one DLC that they were expected to pay extra for, or with such huge bugs and glitches that half the people who pre-ordered couldn't even play them. The anti pre-order movement exists to basically tell game companies "You can have my money when you deliver a playable game that's worth paying for." When you pre-order, you're telling them that you don't care if they deliver a finished product or not. You'll still throw money at them and they can just do whatever. Don't encourage them or enable them. [/QUOTE]

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