What would Sony have to do to make you buy a PS6?

[Kamako]

I'm not gonna sugar-coat it:
I think the PS5 is a let-down.

Don't get me wrong: It's a graphical powerhouse, and the PS5 has one or two significant advantages over its predecessor, namely the higher performance and improved ventilation. It also comes equipped with arguably the best modern controller on the market, the DualSense.

But for every step forward, there has been an equal or greater concession made.

I've owned a PS1, 2, 4 & 5, so it's fair to say I've been a pretty consistent and life-long Sony fan. Yet undoubtedly, the PS5 has been (for me, at least) their most disappointing outing.

For those who feel the same way, or anyone else who hasn't really been interested in Sony's gaming hardware as of late, my question is this: What would the PlayStation 6 need to do in order to win your hard-earned money?

It's undoubtedly going to cost more than the PS5, so we're likely going to be talking somewhere in the range of $700 ~ $800 dollars.

What features would the PS6 need to have to convince you to buy one?

 

[Frickinfrik]

It’s backwards compatible with all previous PlayStation consoles.

 

[Raccoonus]

I mean do I have to say it?

 

[Heinzu]

The price will be decisive If the device becomes too expensive then I say no because it cannot be that these devices are becoming more and more expensive.

 

[Kamako]

It’s backwards compatible with all previous PlayStation consoles.

Should it need to be able to read every type of disc? Or make every game from their back catalogue and available to play via emulator?

I think that the latter option is probably more reasonable, and would hopefully enable them to create trophy sets for earlier games too.

 

[Kamako]

The price will be decisive If the device becomes too expensive then I say no because it cannot be that these devices are becoming more and more expensive.

What would you say is the cut-off price that they cannot pass?

 

[Kamako]

I mean do I have to say it?

That would be in the spirit of things

 

[Heinzu]

What would you say is the cut-off price that they cannot pass?

I think if it goes over 1000 and more. The PS 5 has long since exceeded the limit it is already too expensive and the pro version didn't make it any better. It is not very easy to always earn a lot of money and I no longer see the point in spending money on such expensive devices then I'd rather buy a gaming PC.

 

[bjork]

For me personally, I don't know that it's possible. The last Playstation console I actively bought games for was PS2, so I'm divorced enough from the ecosystem that the argument of "but your trophies! your friends list" is really a non-starter for me. That also kind of nullifies BC as a selling point since I can emulate all that old stuff pretty well nowadays. Even if you went, "here's a new [some exclusive PS game I can't think of right now]!" I can't think of something that would pull me back in.

But I will say that if there were ever to be a Rising Zan 2 and you could only play it on a PS6, I would do that just so my dad's ghost could live through me, because he loved that game and always asked when they were doing a part 2.

As far as price point goes, we've skewed too high as it is, but people keep buying them. $500 would be my limit anyway, because beyond that, what are you even doing. But as long as they know they can go "we need an extra $100" and people still turn up for it, I guess there is no ceiling until we hit it.

 

[Potapota]

$299

 

[Raccoonus]

That would be in the spirit of things

Sorry for my attempt at a joke I suppose.
Well I guess it really needs to be priced well, needs to be backwards compatible (arguably back to the ps4 really since we still have not moved past that gen really) and Sony really needs to work on their exclusive lineup. I firmly believe Sony is now dealing with Valve and Nintendo as Microsoft has seemingly stepped aside and is not really putting anything out that's worth buying anymore. Nintendo has them beat in terms of exclusive title output and Valve is starting to change, they're working on a few games right now and one of them is being developed publicly in front of all of us. PC gaming is looking more and more appealing now to many people as the price of a PC and console are now not all that different at the same price bracket.
The perfect move from Sony right now to just take away the last of the vestigial XBOX playerbase would be making PS+ a thing of the past and allowing people to play online for free and announce some exclusives, that both makes them seem cheaper than Nintendo and competing with them in terms of games. I think if they did that they would even be able to get away with making the console more expensive because the idea of a console being an investment is something we all think about before buying it and what future purchases we will need to make for it, having a leg up in today's economy by being the cheaper long term choice just makes sense to me but i'm also not a greedy corporate executive who needs his 0.8% profit increase by this Sunday so what do I know?
Oh and I want Sly Cooper back, in any way really.

Eventually though they will need to adapt to the PC platform getting stronger and cheaper at a faster rate than consoles. We're hitting a plateau right now.

 

[Pitokk]

The price of the consoles. They are too high and sometime the price is "justified" beacause they have lots of fancy options and functions that no one really uses.
And with price i dont mean the price of the console alone...
Nowadays spending 80-90 Euros or dollars for a game is absurd. Also paying the PS plus for playing online is a very greedy choice.

Also i think there are few things i want from a new console. I don't need better performance because most of the triple AAA of this generation don't even consider the option to optimize so a more powerfull console wont help the situation. Backward compatibility would be great though.

 

[Tsushinoko]

I don't think there's anything Sony can do to pique my interest after the disaster that was the PS5 and most of the PS4's life.

 

[Waffles's iconWaffles]

Easy! All they'd have to do is [CENSORED] ;D!

But real answer? Offline mode for everything they allow to be released in there.

 

[sandogma sandogma]

Some sort of bespoke hardware feature that is compelling enough to make 3rd party studio's make games that leverage it. Also Shadow of the Colossus 2 with co-op...

 

[ZEGA ZONIC]

Free multiplayer

 

[Bakuma1997]

Physical reader in the console, NOW

 

[X y b e r - S k u ll]

Make Ape Escape 4

 

[qw90700]

I bought PS1, PS2, PSP, hell even PS Vita because they have significant video games I wanna play + I do play games on emulator so I'm not die hard "only play on console or don't" dude but I prefer to play my favourite games on the console. But I didn't buy another PlayStation since PS Vita, didn't even buy PS3 to play Metal Gear Solid 4 (I borrowed it from a friend to play the game) because PS3, PS4 and PS5 have no significant library to care about for my taste. And I don't even mean "exclusives", I still play PS2 versions of games that have PC versions because I like to play them on my PS2 so should if PS6 had a significant library, despite the games have a PC version I would play them on PS6, why not? I'm not a "144 FPS 4K PC Master Race" type.

That being said, for me to buy PS6 it gotta have a significant library + it gotta have a great backwards compability starting from PS1 and ends with PS5 without any issue so all games will be playable. Yes I mean "all", not "a few selected". However I don't like PlayStation Plus Classics Catalog and what Nintendo does with buying old games from online store to play them. I already have them so wouldn't wanna buy again, but I won't ask for reading discs of the games or some shit. Sony gotta let me run me games by putting the files of the games into PS6 to play them or the deal is off lol. Another condition is price to value ratio. For example PS3, PS4 and PS5 wasn't a shit I would even pay 1/10 of their retail price. They are so rubbish I wouldn't even emulate them so Sony should realize I won't buy a console that feels like buying a car (considering how expensive it becomes due to currency conversion and taxes). Sony gotta up their game and bring significant games to the PS6 but then video game industry died after 2016 so they have a very low chance for me to buy any PlayStation anymore lol. Oh also they should ditch "video games are service" model and they should ditch forcing you go online to even using the console and playing singleplayer games. I wanna keep my game forever yo, otherwise "Sony you never meant to exist forever" lolol.

 

[Kamako]

Sorry for my attempt at a joke I suppose.

I was trying to reply in a similarly droll/dry fashion - Think this was a classic case of crossed wires!

In any case, I agree with your analysis about the problems Sony currently would face when promoting a new console, especially about Nintendo's exclusive line-up having them beat and the pricing of PS+ becoming less and less justifiable with every price hike.
I'm not sure what Valve game you're referring to though? I must be out of the loop. Love all of their games that I've played though. And the Sly Cooper series is still firmly on my "To play" list.

 

[destinyduelist]

Have games on it. They really seem to struggle with that.

 

[Kamako]

...But I will say that if there were ever tobe a Rising Zan 2 and you could only play it on a PS6, I would do that just so my dad's ghost could live through me, because he loved that game and always asked when they were doing a part 2.

That rocks. I've not played the original game but I hope they announce a solid sequel in good time.

 

[Dyne]

I don't need more powerful hardware. Like ever. Thats just a personal thing but I think games look amazing and if graphics never improve past current tech I'm 100% fine with it.

So what I'd want is:

PS5 Pro power/graphics at a sub-$500 price point
Blu-ray drive thats backward compatible with PS3/4/5
Free online multiplayer like back in the PS3 days

But the real answer is exclusive titles that I want to play.
I would rather everything get ported to PC so I don't need a Playstation, but that is what would potentially get me to buy a PS6.

 

[Rorisu]

I'm not gonna sugar-coat it:
I think the PS5 is a let-down.

Don't get me wrong: It's a graphical powerhouse, and the PS5 has one or two significant advantages over its predecessor, namely the higher performance and improved ventilation. It also comes equipped with arguably the best modern controller on the market, the DualSense.

But for every step forward, there has been an equal or greater concession made.

I've owned a PS1, 2, 4 & 5, so it's fair to say I've been a pretty consistent and life-long Sony fan. Yet undoubtedly, the PS5 has been (for me, at least) their most disappointing outing.

For those who feel the same way, or anyone else who hasn't really been interested in Sony's gaming hardware as of late, my question is this: What would the PlayStation 6 need to do in order to win your hard-earned money?

It's undoubtedly going to cost more than the PS5, so we're likely going to be talking somewhere in the range of $700 ~ $800 dollars.

What features would the PS6 need to have to convince you to buy one?
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Easy question, for first, it should not cost as much as a pc, and not try to be a pc... with this i mean it should be affordable to buy (400 dollar/euro max price day one), then it should have PERMANENT EXCLUSIVE and even more importantly, they should stop putting fake fps and resolutions on the boxes of their consoles, we are into an era where console upscale games too much to make them run like on pc, but they advertise them differently each times, and that really won't do with me, so i think they should create less powerfull hardwares, making a focus on exclusives again, and don't "buff on the cover" making people think 120 fps+ 4k native is a thing for them, because while 120fps in CERTAIN GAMES are surely doable, they will be upscaled from a much lower resolution than 4k... and even in quality mode you won't have 4k native on games... so why all this fake commercials? (retorical question because of course the reason is "just to sell", but still it bugs me a lot)

 

[Raccoonus]

I was trying to reply in a similarly droll/dry fashion - Think this was a classic case of crossed wires!

In any case, I agree with your analysis about the problems Sony currently would face when promoting a new console, especially about Nintendo's exclusive line-up having them beat and the pricing of PS+ becoming less and less justifiable with every price hike.
I'm not sure what Valve game you're referring to though? I must be out of the loop. Love all of their games that I've played though. And the Sly Cooper series is still firmly on my "To play" list.

Oh I was referring to Deadlock, i've actually played it and the characters are already really well done and it's probably the most mechanically interesting MOBA i've ever played with excellent music as well. It's currently invite only but it's not hard to get an invite at all as anyone who is playing it accumulates invites over time. You could probably just check the steam page and you most likely have a steam friend who plays it who will more than happily invite you if you ask.