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Message: [QUOTE="bjork, post: 311693, member: 2227"] Nobody said anything about surpassing, just that it wasn't first, so groundbreaking is a bit of a stretch. Popularized, sure. But not first. Gears popularized cover shooters, but wasn't the first to employ the concept. It isn't a stretch to say Nintendo popularized a lot of stuff or that some people's first exposure to a thing was through a handful of titles, though. As far as 3D adventure goes, if you're talking an explorable 3D world, that was available earlier on the N64 already multiple times. If you need an inventory to consider it an adventure, Tomb Raider had that. Heck, Super Hydlide had that, even if it is clunky and bad. All console games. PC is a bit foggier for me as I didn't play a ton of PC then, but I know Elderscrolls Redguard was similar in style and may have predated Ocarina, not sure. As for Z-targeting, I believe that came from flight sims first, so it would be a different application of the same concept. But way more people played Zelda so they think it did it first. [/QUOTE]

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