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Message: [QUOTE="medisinn, post: 81479, member: 157567"] I do wonder if Final Fantasy straying from turn-based battles soured the general gaming perception on them since it was such a huge franchise. Coincidentally, or maybe not, each Final Fantasy game since they've strayed from their roots seems to be less beloved than the last. XIII was turn-based, I think it just changed too many things from what people were used to and thus alienated them. I'm fine with turn-based games, as well as random battles even, as long as they are done well. Reward innovation and strategy, not just whatever makes the number go high. I enjoy Persona and Shin Megami Tensei for that reason, exploiting elemental weaknesses is critical, as well as using status ailments and buffs/debuffs. I play some action RPGs but they feel kind of limited because the only builds that seem to matter are ones that stack attack, crit % and crit damage. Boring. Octopath Traveler is probably the most refreshing turn-based games have felt to me in a while. I've missed out on Undertale and someother notable games that redefined the formula. Even something like Eiyuden Chronicles can work if it's a quality throwback to something enjoyable that has been missing for a while. Hopefully Penny Blood and Armed Fantasia continue that throwback trend whenever they come out. Quality-of-life things like being able to speed up long animations and having snappy non-boss battles help a lot. I loved playing Final Fantasy VIII at the time, but I don't know if I'd be able to tolerate those long-ass summon animations now. Sure, you could skip most of the animations, but at the trade-off of doing less damage. Then again, part of the appeal of a role-playing game is the long-form aspect of it. You're watching the story unfold over dozens of hours, sure, but also watching your party go from very weak to massively strong at the same time. It wouldn't have the same effect if it were truncated to just a few hours. Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night is the only action game I've played where I really felt that satisfaction of going from weak to incredibly powerful if you went out of your way to do everything that raised your stats. [/QUOTE]

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