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Message: [QUOTE="Sakitoshi, post: 166004, member: 2809"] all good examples to show the limitations. zelda 1 has almost no dialog and has zero storytelling in the game itself. all of those bits are in the manual. zelda 2 and simon's quest fare better in storytelling but fall short. the towns barely feel alive with small talk that doesn't really make much sense. npcs say just enough to point you in the direction you need to go. haven't played the others you mention, but i know startropics is basically zelda 1 but different. so, i would assume is has similar shortcomings. the limitations of the nes made ambitious games read very stiff. npcs aren't allowed to have more than a few lines of dialog, so they go to the point. which is good in a way but makes them poor for storytelling. that is the point i'm trying to make. newer hardware made developers able to have action AND npcs capable of actual dialog, not just directions. also let's not forget that animations are very limited in those games, so the actions you can perform also are. the sprite limit made impossible to have many things happening, there is a limit to what can happen on screen. that's why we started to see proper action rpgs on the snes, because better technology allowed for it. turn based gameplay allowed them to have screen filling effects to demonstrate the action they were trying to achieve. they have full control over what happens, how much of it and how often. for example, spells in tales of phantasia on the snes pause the gameplay while taking effect because of it. final fantasy games on ps1 were able to show high quality effects because they happen one at a time. i could go on, but i think i made my point clear. there are no such limitations with today hardware, so they can do away with turn based gameplay if they choose to. i enjoy turn based games, but most developers and "modern audiences" don't seem too fond of them. [/QUOTE]

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