[THEORY] AI and the video game crash

[metaretro]

I just thought of something: the AI bubble will eventually burst, like the video game crash in the 1980s because everyone is mass-producing low-quality content and those at the top are desperately trying to maintain trust of the public and investors with bogus innovations such as AI girlfriends.

In the 1980s too many players started producing games quickly, often without quality. Consumers were inundated with poor products (the famous E.T. cartridges on Atari). The market became saturated, and the perceived value of games plummeted.

Today with AI, thousands of companies are launching products based on basic (often similar) models, without any real innovation. Mass-generated text, images, and videos are often indistinguishable and of slop quality. This leads to user fatigue, a loss of trust, and a loss of differentiation. When everything is generated, nothing seems authentic anymore.

Do you find this analogy relevant? If so, do you think we will see a renaissance like Nintendo's, or rather a different trajectory with a return to inherent human qualities and a shift away from materialism?

 

[Neb Lleb]

I just thought of something: the AI bubble will eventually burst, like the video game crash in the 1980s because everyone is mass-producing low-quality content and those at the top are desperately trying to maintain trust of the public and investors with bogus innovations such as AI girlfriends.

In the 1980s too many players started producing games quickly, often without quality. Consumers were inundated with poor products (the famous E.T. cartridges on Atari). The market became saturated, and the perceived value of games plummeted.

Today with AI, thousands of companies are launching products based on basic (often similar) models, without any real innovation. Mass-generated text, images, and videos are often indistinguishable and of slop quality. This leads to user fatigue, a loss of trust, and a loss of differentiation. When everything is generated, nothing seems authentic anymore.

Do you find this analogy relevant? If so, do you think we will see a renaissance like Nintendo's, or rather a different trajectory with a return to inherent human qualities and a shift away from materialism?

I think the AI crash is already in motion. We have an ongoing backlash at the platform YouTube which has implemented an AI Surveillance software (including both a petition to reverse it by user Gerfdas Games and being targeted by HR group Fight for the Future in their fight against ID Check laws). We have slang terms like "Clanker". We have more and more people calling out AI-generated images and videos. And people in America (where techno-fascism and AI run rampant) have even begun vandalising ads for AI companies.

It's no longer a question of IF the bubble will burst, but WHEN. And quite frankly, it's looking more and more likely every week. And I think the end of this will be an inevitable passing of restrictions and regulations for AI companies.

 

[Heinzu]

As always, it is the people's fault because they always have to exaggerate and the same applies to the topic of AI. Well, what the heck, everything will be fine or at least let's hope so.

 

[moonbits]

If it bursts, you'll see a economic collapse of a grandiose scale and your silly entertainment will be the least of your worries.

 

[TruxtonTatsujin TruxtonTatsujin]

AI is only really a problem right now because of lack of regulation. It often takes a long time for the law to catch up to current technology. I think the biggest issue is there is no limitation on what can be used to train these AI models. Using unapproved material to train your AI model is plagiarism as far as I'm concerned, and I hope copyright law sees it that way sooner rather than later.

 

[moonbits]

AI is only really a problem right now because of lack of regulation. It often takes a long time for the law to catch up to current technology. I think the biggest issue is there is no limitation on what can be used to train these AI models. Using unapproved material to train your AI model is plagiarism as far as I'm concerned, and I hope copyright law sees it that way sooner rather than later.

They deliberately let it loose to get as much information as possible and get people attached. Can't pull the hand brake that easily now.

 

[TruxtonTatsujin TruxtonTatsujin]

They deliberately let it loose to get as much information as possible and get people attached. Can't pull the hand brake that easily now.

I still think they should be held accountable as to what the AI is pulling from.

 

[SwaunyJones]

I still think they should be held accountable as to what the AI is pulling from.

Good luck. I can't even imagine the money being thrown around to be the main source that AI pulls from for the sake of 'humanities best interests'

 

[moonbits]

I still think they should be held accountable as to what the AI is pulling from.

Ideally yeah, but it's a gray zone they can sneak their way through. Plus, governments and private sectors have invested so much in this technology, they'll turn a blind eye.

boy doesn't this feel like the beginning of a cool dystopian science fiction

 

[TheSoulWalker TheSoulWalker]

Always been on the side that the user is to blame for the current state of AI. Instead of it being used as a tool to create solutions, it's being used as the ultimate solution which is not what it's made for.

 

[metaretro]

As always, it is the people's fault because they always have to exaggerate and the same applies to the topic of AI. Well, what the heck, everything will be fine or at least let's hope so.

That's no exaggeration, bro. AI needs data centers, and due to changes in GPU design and cooling systems, data centers need buildings of entirely new dimensions every two years. The AI industry as a whole will have to generate billions of dollars in revenue per year to justify current investments, and for now, AI is only capable of replicating human tasks and producing slop content, not replacing them, so it is doomed to collapse.

If it bursts, you'll see a economic collapse of a grandiose scale and your silly entertainment will be the least of your worries.

Good, history proves that collapse is beneficial for 99% of people.

 

[Heinzu]

That's no exaggeration, bro. AI needs data centers, and due to changes in GPU design and cooling systems, data centers need buildings of entirely new dimensions every two years. The AI industry as a whole will have to generate billions of dollars in revenue per year to justify current investments, and for now, AI is only capable of replicating human tasks and producing slop content, not replacing them, so it is doomed to collapse.

Yes, that could happen but it doesn't have to be. OK, we can speculate a lot about it now but let's wait and see what will happen.

 

[TruxtonTatsujin TruxtonTatsujin]

Good luck. I can't even imagine the money being thrown around to be the main source that AI pulls from for the sake of 'humanities best interests'

Never said it would be easy. Just spit balling solutions to our current predicament.

 

[SwaunyJones]

Where do you see games realistically going with AI's influence now starting to take shape?
- Character improvements for NPC's and other interactions in games
- Meeting benchmarks for running games to meet performance conditions in the game (improved ray tracing, graphical benchmarks)
- Marketing purposes to squeeze our pockets???

 

[Neb Lleb]

Always been on the side that the user is to blame for the current state of AI. Instead of it being used as a tool to create solutions, it's being used as the ultimate solution which is not what it's made for.

I can't help but think of that one line from Patlabor: The Movie: "You treat technology right, and it will treat you right as well". Or something. I don't remember how the line specifically goes.

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Where do you see games realistically going with AI's influence now starting to take shape?
- Character improvements for NPC's and other interactions in games
- Meeting benchmarks for running games to meet performance conditions in the game (improved ray tracing, graphical benchmarks)
- Marketing purposes to squeeze our pockets???

Once regulation kicks in, maybe assistance in benchmarks and graphics. Remember, AI should compliment human work, not be used as a substitute for it.

 

[TheSoulWalker TheSoulWalker]

I can't help but think of that one line from Patlabor: The Movie: "You treat technology right, and it will treat you right as well". Or something. I don't remember how the line specifically goes.

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Once regulation kicks in, maybe assistance in benchmarks and graphics. Remember, AI should compliment human work, not be used as a substitute for it.

It's effectively the saying "You reap what you sow"

 

[metaretro]

Where do you see games realistically going with AI's influence now starting to take shape?
- Character improvements for NPC's and other interactions in games
- Meeting benchmarks for running games to meet performance conditions in the game (improved ray tracing, graphical benchmarks)
- Marketing purposes to squeeze our pockets???

The thing is, AI isn't as useful as people seem to think. I can see this technology surviving in video games, but it will be limited rather than revolutionary.

" OH trust mee brooo Soon, games will create themselves."

"Each player will experience their own unique adventure straight fiiiree."

"NPCs will have consciousness, i'm actually going to crash out"

In practice, no.

Studios that haveexperimented with these ideas like Ubisoft and Blizzard have found that AI models are imprecise, capricious, and expensive.

 

[TheSoulWalker TheSoulWalker]

The thing is, AI isn't as useful as people seem to think. I can see this technology surviving in video games, but it will be limited rather than revolutionary.

Personally I think it will matter more outside entertainment and more in actual scientific application, medicine, space travel, etc.

 

[TechBlisSTer]

AI is a weird thing. There sure is a lot of crap that people just do not want. On the other hand AI is a tool with nearly limitless possibilities that's being used and exploited by big companies and individuals.
Gaming is already crashing hard and it's not because of AI. In fact you can say it's from a lack of AI, just not the same AI you're talking about LOL. The next video game crash is the AAA video game crash. Higher prices for worse products. And very expensive consoles that just don't offer the customer much of anything. Even ownership over their expensive garbage games.

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Studios that haveexperimented with these ideas like Ubisoft and Blizzard have found that AI models are imprecise, capricious, and expensive.

Okay, now do a developer / studio that isn't a complete joke and has been.

 

[Advil Lavs]

The video game crash of the 80s, the .com bubble of the 90s (I think), every big innovation gets saturated, regulated and adopted by our world. I hope after the inevitable crash of many AI companies and some regulations, we'll get something which helps us and the internet more than it harms it.