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Message: [QUOTE="Lena CE, post: 372961, member: 26523"] Microsoft isn't even relevant in this discussion imo. The primary reason for them switching over is because the Xbox ecosystem is failing on all fronts, so PC and multiplatform is all they have. Maybe I'm just naive, but the idea that Microsoft would still be shifting focus like they are if the Xbox One sold 117m units instead of 58 million and/or Xbox Series systems were the ones selling 90m units instead of 34m is silly to me. They just recognize that their platform is failing rapidly and need to either pivot or shut down entirely. Also, those specs you gave aren't well below the PS5 in a meaningful way aside from the loss of 4gb of vram and the slower CPU clock speed. CPU doesn't matter as much in this more GPU-intensive era tho. No one with this rig should be eyeballing a Steam Machine as a substantive upgrade. You'll go from like 1080p 60fps medium settings to 1080p 60fps high and you'll hit almost all the same bottlenecks down the road whilst being on a closed system as opposed to an upgradable one that you can slowly get parts for. It also just assumes that the Steam Machine is gonna be a thrifty device, which I'm still not really convinced of. Valve didn't really seem to take a huge hit on Steam Deck's hardware and I'm still of the opinion that this is gonna launch at $600-700. Anyone with an existing rig that isn't meaningfully behind those average specs would still likely be better off upgrading their existing rig based on need more than buying a SM of all things. Maybe I'm just overvaluing the ability to upgrade your rig. For a console player looking to jump into PC the convenience of a closed ecosystem like the SM is enticing since it mirrors a console, but if they look at that vs a prospective PS6 that will be backwards compatible I don't see the sale. For anyone with an existing rig they have to decide on a case-by-case basis how far behind their rig is to a Steam Machine and then weigh how much they care about upgrading a machine over time. Again, I have to reiterate that we hit the next console gen a year after this thing launches and that's generally a time where bottlenecks start to really feel the squeeze. The SM will likely be a solid machine for anyone looking at a simple secondary device for a living room, but I am still deeply skeptical of its broader appeal because of the time and place. You'd have to have a seriously lackluster rig in 2026 to wanna jump to the Steam Machine as your upgrade and that's assuming its priced as competitively as people hope it will be and nothing drastic happens in the next 1-2 years to make just upgrading your existing rig more enticing than it already is. In that way I agree with PhaseJump in that Valve probably does not intend for this thing will set the world on fire in terms of sales. Valve views SteamOS as a long-term project and given that Microsoft keeps making Windows worse and worse, alternatives just look better and better. This is just another great confirmation that they still have big plans for Windows-alternatives and stuff like Proton. I do not view it as the right product at the right time for the majority of people. [/QUOTE]

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