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Message: [QUOTE="Octopus, post: 82255, member: 4"] Depends if they're done well like numerous people here have already said. A big thing is also the context of the world/story/whatever around them; if they fit into it or if they don't. I laugh at Shadow the Hedgehog primarily because he looks so fundamentally out of place in Sonic that it feels like a purposeful joke, while someone like the Punisher or Vergil make sense in the context of what's around them so you can take them seriously. There's a quote from someone I can't remember the name of about that idea; "if you can't imagine your version of Batman comforting a child, then it's a bad version of Batman. It's just Punisher in a funny hat." Batman done right is that, too much edge and I think people lose what's supposed to be the point of the character. [/QUOTE]

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