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Message: [QUOTE="Evaccaneer Doom, post: 125299, member: 41573"] There's a couple other choices but one thing to keep in mind are console ports. Do you have an Arcade SHMUP in mind that you think looks interesting? Look to see if it was ported to a console. This is important because (most) shmups/bullet hell console ports will have extra content and unlimited play via the ability to press a button to insert (non existent) coins. If you want to play Dodonpachi for example (referring to the original game here), you can, all of it's console ports allow that. Console original/exclusive shmups likely don't have this feature. Thunder Force 4 is a good example, though it gives you a lot of continues by default. Though sometimes you'll have Ikaruga, a game that rewards you with more and more lives the more you game over until you get free play as an option. Or of course, you can just use MAME to insert non existent coins for free play Now as for a couple other examples: -Harmful Park: a PS1 shmup with infinite continues. For the first 3 levels, you start in the same place you died. In the last 3, you start from the beginning. Annoying as shit, but that's pretty generous compared to others -Blue Revolver: this indie game encourages improvement and there's a free play option in the game itself as an item that isn't too hard to get. -Bullet Hell Monday: a mobile game made to teach you the basics of bullet hell, as a result it's not too complicated. This only applies to the original game. BHM Black is completely paywalled and Finale is probably not a good starter pick -Graze Counter GM: A SHMUP that focuses on a pretty big reoccurring part of shmups: grazing. Grazing is when you get extra points from just barely getting nailed by a stray bullet. It's a mechanic used in various games, most popular being Touhou speaking of -Touhou: as long as you aren't starting with Subterranean Animism, Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom, or Unidentified Fantastic Object, they aren't too hard to get into. They don't have any free play so do keep that in mind. I don't recommend playing the Phantasmagoria games first either because those are Vs SHMUPs, which look more like Twinkle Star Sprites. Other than those there's also a few spinoffs (Great Fairy Wars, Violet Detector, Shoot the Bullet, Double Spoiler, the fighting games, Immemorial Black Market, etc) which as you can imagine are similar or completely different to mainline games. Also worth noting that fan games often eclipse the original games on Steam, the wiki has direct links to them. Touhous 1-8, 7.5, 10.5, 12.3, 13.5, and 14.5 are not available on Steam, but most of those exceptions are spinoffs and most usually only play EoSD, PCB, or IN (which are 6-8). -Rabi Ribi: this one might be cheating a bit as it's not a shmup. However it DOES feature a lot of bullet hell patterns referencing other shmups and it's just a really fun game. -Undertale: Technically not cheating to bring this one up as shmup gameplay makes up a huge part of the Pacifist route, making it a solid choice for practice. [automerge]1741632387[/automerge] It most definitely isn't. Amongst other SHMUPs and bullet hell games, Touhou fits right in, it's just not as hardcore as its contemporaries like Ketsui, Battle Garegga, or Dodonpachi. I'd even go as far as to say its one of the closest game franchises to Dodonpachi in basic gameplay [/QUOTE]

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