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Message: [QUOTE="Yousef, post: 11721, member: 963"] [HEADING=2][/HEADING] [HEADING=2]Inti Creates, a good company with good games that makes no good Megaman games[/HEADING] Inti creates is a good company. I like their games, I like some of their Megaman style games and hell, I even like Megaman 10. That said, Inti Creates does not seem to know how to make a good Megaman game. I wish my feelings for them were easy to navigate. It sounds like I’m calling them bad, but I like their games. And even though I like their games, I think there’s undeniable flaws to them. Luckily, their non Megaman games are harmless. They have no real code to adhere to other than doing what they want. I’m also typically ok with new takes on games I love. I’ve basically had to adapt to that twice with gta. Once When I was replaying gta iv and had to adapt to the heavier vehicles and the abandonment of arcade style driving, then once again with gta v when it ditched 4’s heavier driving in favor of bringing back arcade style driving. Both threw me for a loop, and yet I winded up living both. This is not a commonly held in opinion in gta community. GTA 4 and 5 are constantly at each other’s necks, yet here I am, flexible as water. so with inti, the change isn’t the issue. It’s substance. And even then, it’s arguably trying to emulate classic, not drift away from it. Thus it is fair to criticize it for not properly emulating it. The two core issues I’ve nailed down are level design and boss design. Inti creates Megaman levels are simply not that interesting. And no, it’s not because they’re “modernizing” Megaman. I believe Megaman 11 is pretty good level design wise, and yes, it is modern classic, but it is developed in-house, by a different team that better understands rock. 11 has its own set of issues, mainly with bosses, but it is a better return to form. It feels like the true continuation to Megaman 8 and Rockman & Forte, and not what 9 is. 9 and 10 both neglect way too much. 7 and 8 did weird stuff, but they confidently carried over the legacy of the NES games properly. So much so that I disagree that Rockman 7 Famicom and Rockman 8 Famicom are the “definitive” versions. They’re very good fan games, but they’re different takes. Different takes that aren’t better or worse, just different. 9 and 10 don’t carry over the puzzle based design philosophy the NES Megaman. Each room feels like a diet version of a Megaman X level without the thought being put Into each enemy and obstacle. In Megaman 3 when you encounter the snakes, you have to figure out they shoot you at your last position, so you manipulate the trajectory of their shots. Megaman 3 is one of the weaker classic titles and yet it has the core fundamentals laid down. What does 10 do? Give you two mini bosses you can take out with two commando shots…. [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMG_1975.jpeg"]3587[/ATTACH] This entirely extends to bosses, as classic bosses carry the same philosophy while 9 bosses carry the same dumbness. But to further expand on levels, we must touch on enemies too. In classic, enemies had personalities. You can interact with enemies, manipulate them in a way and have meaningful fights. They’re also independent, yet they react to you meaningfully. They acknowledge you while having their own personalities. They’re characters, not just enemies. 9 and 10 ditched this completely. All enemies behave as glorified obstacle courses. Sure, they have cool character designs, but you never have any interesting puzzles to solve. You just jump and dodge Like a hooligan. It’s basic and uninspired. Yes, inti creates are simple indie devs, so creating enemies with complex patterns might take time, but it doesn’t have to be THAT complex. Crystal man and gravity man both had unique and cleverly designed enemies that aren’t really that groundbreaking but they got the job done. They interact with you, keep you on your toes, make you take full advantage of your moveset, stay unpredictable, etc. they make meaningful use of dodge too. No, unpredictability isn’t randomness. Now, what about bosses? Classic bosses are masterpieces. From Megaman 1 to Megaman 6, all six of those have amazing bosses. Cutman is the definition of deceptive difficulty. He scares you at first but his behavior is extremely easy to manipulate. Fireman is actually a rythm game. You have to shoot him once then jump so he doesn’t get too heated (puns!!), shoot him twice, shame on you. Copy robot might be the most complex boss in Megaman history although this might be the case where I’d say that’s not immediately a good thing. Megaman 2…. Has no good fights. Let’s move on. Hot take, but I like Gemini man’s fight. I like that he shoots when you shoot. Magnet man is my favorite robot master of all time. Enough said. I think snake man is fun. He’s chaotic but I like that about him. Spark man is also great. For Megaman 4, actually, I think all of them are great! …… toad man notwithstanding Megaman 5 is underrated. Crystal man, charge man, wave man, gravity and shawarma man all have their strengths. Knight man in Megaman 6 is great. I love that you manuplate where he throws bid made. Guy should’ve picked a dark souls build besides faith+strength. Megaman 9 and 10 bosses… they… they exist. 1-6? You interact with them. You manuplate their patterns. They change their behavior based on your position and when you shoot and how close you are to them. Well, Megaman 2 doesn’t do that cuz it’s a shit game and 9 is based on 2 so- oooohhh so that’s whyyyy But yes, 9 and 10? Nah. No personality. No interactions. No reactions. Just doing their own thing. Dive man? He will chase your ass if you get close or take pot shots at you if you’re too far. Splash woman? Sure, I guess she sorta followes you when she plunges you with her fork… I guess that’s some kinda interaction…. Just like I guess maybe woodman… the worst robot master ever… I guess…. But hey, nitro man does have the cool chill spikes, those do make the fight really fun, and yeah… but it’s pretty bare bones. Galaxy man also does the really basic “follow you” Actually they’re all basic. 9 and 10 robot masters have zero personality. Ok, MAYBE pumpman has that cool attack where he headbutts you… in hard mode only. Fuckin… JUST PUT ALL THE HARD MODE STUFF in NORMAL MODE, seriously, why gatekeep your good ideas behind hard mode? Are you paying homage to Megaman 2 or Megaman X8? That’s kinda where I’ll end it. That’s my scattershot rant. [USER=73]@Gorse[/USER] [USER=5469]@fake[/USER] now you probably see why this took two days to type out. I have an OCD habit of putting research even into simple forum messages… Well, catch you on the other side once we’re all awake. I imagine both you are sleeping and I’m about t o do that too. Well, it’s eearly in kuwait, but I imagine it’s like what? 1 am in Canada? [/QUOTE]

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