I mean a PC browser VPNOpera Mobile does include a VPN.
I'm guessing here, but if you are just interested in visiting sites that aren't available in your country you could just change your DNS Resolver.First i tried holavpn and then i heard it has a botnet so i deleted it, and then i tried protonvpn but you need to pay to use the browser version.
Good and Free don't go together with VPN's a free one, if they don't sell your data, will keep records of where you go, and Throttle your speed. you want a VPN that you can trust, you will have to pay for it. unless like @Ravl saidFirst i tried holavpn and then i heard it has a botnet so i deleted it, and then i tried protonvpn but you need to pay to use the browser version.
or as @fake-kun saidI'm guessing here, but if you are just interested in visiting sites that aren't available in your country you could just change your DNS Resolver.
No. Just use Tor Browser.
How do I do that?I'm guessing here, but if you are just interested in visiting sites that aren't available in your country you could just change your DNS Resolver.
Google it, or youtube it. seriously. you have the worlds information at your fingertips sweetie.How do I do that?
First i tried holavpn and then i heard it has a botnet so i deleted it, and then i tried protonvpn but you need to pay to use the browser version.
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There are a few ways to it: I recommend using Firefox as a browser then going to settings<Privacy and Security, scroll down to "DNS over HTTPS" select "increased protection" and choose a provider, Cloudflare will probably do the trickHow do I do that?
Wut? Your isp keeps track of number of connections? I don't see how a vpn would prevent throttling based on number of connections... vpn or not, your isp knows how many internets you are using.but I do like it keeping my ISP from noticing a lot of downloads at a time...
I’m not talking about throttling, I’m talking about peoples’ ISPs noticing and sending communication when they notice “weird activity” ei. caught you pirating a bunch of stuff by whatever metric(s) they use. I use a VPN to keep my head low from stuff like thatWut? Your isp keeps track of number of connections? I don't see how a vpn would prevent throttling based on number of connections... vpn or not, your isp knows how many internets you are using.
Do you mean you use it to hide torrent p2p traffic which they throttle?
As far as I understand, they only care if they get a DMCA notice which they will then forward to you (this is usually for file sharing). If you are only DIRECT downloading (directly through browser or over irc etc.), then it is VERY unlikely that they care, unless you are going to very sketchy sites that then report your activity to your isp... Torrents though, are another matter, that is a case when you should use a vpn to prevent your isp from getting a DMCA notice: it's not difficult for someone to scrape all the ip's in a swarm and then report to isp.by whatever metric(s) they use.
I use torrents when I need to but mostly they’re all direct downloads. I do see what you’re getting at, and I could stand to brush up on cybersecurity, but I still think it’s a bit naïve to assume ISPs don’t care about their customers downloading a ton of copyrighted material. ISPs serve themselves and their interests.As far as I understand, they only care if they get a DMCA notice which they will then forward to you (this is usually for file sharing). If you are only DIRECT downloading (directly through browser or over irc etc.), then it is VERY unlikely that they care, unless you are going to very sketchy sites that then report your activity to your isp... Torrents though, are another matter, that is a case when you should use a vpn to prevent your isp from getting a DMCA notice: it's not difficult for someone to scrape all the ip's in a swarm and then report to isp.
what I’m mostly getting at here is that you shouldn’t trust your ISP to make decisions that make sense—these are some of the most influential, wealthy companies in the world. They’re not on your side.I use torrents when I need to but mostly they’re all direct downloads. I do see what you’re getting at, and I could stand to brush up on cybersecurity, but I still think it’s a bit naïve to assume ISPs don’t care about their customers downloading a ton of copyrighted material. ISPs serve themselves and their interests.
Am I going to jail for downloading a bunch of GBA games without a VPN? No, of course not. Am I going to jail for downloading hundreds of GBs of modern games & movies? No. Do I trust my ISP, in 2025, to have common sense, be on my side, or not care about shit? No, absolutely fucking not. So I keep using a VPN—when I need to, and when I probably don’t.
Yea, good points, and I would also like to hear what someone that actually knows about this thinks, networking is not something I know a lot about. And a VPN is something I have been thinking about, hence my interest in this thread. One of the reasons I use linux IS for privacy/security reasons, I DO NOT trust windows as an os, but that is another thread...I use torrents when I need to but mostly they’re all direct downloads. I do see what you’re getting at, and I could stand to brush up on cybersecurity, but I still think it’s a bit naïve to assume ISPs don’t care about their customers downloading a ton of copyrighted material. ISPs serve themselves and their interests.
Am I going to jail for downloading a bunch of GBA games without a VPN? No, of course not. Am I going to jail for downloading hundreds of GBs of modern games & movies? No. Do I trust my ISP, in 2025, to have common sense, be on my side, or not care about shit? No, absolutely fucking not. So I keep using a VPN—when I need to, and when I probably don’t.
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what I’m mostly getting at here is that you shouldn’t trust your ISP to make decisions that make sense—these are some of the most influential, wealthy companies in the world. They’re not on your side.
I got the sense that your messages were sort of conveying “it’s not a big deal/something you really need” and while not everyone NEEDS a VPN, I just can’t accept that hiding yourself from your ISP is like, some sort of wasted effort. It’s not.
I disagree and think a vpn can potentially be more damaging to your privacy. You are just now letting some other company see your activity and log it and use it in the same way your isp can. I think it would be impossible for any major isp to actually "check" dl's of all their users actively: it is an ocean of data, and how would they know if a particular dl is not paid for? I would assume they don't have the resources for something like that. Unless your isp gets contacted, I don't think they are doing checks on what you are downloading, unless you live in a country where the government mandates reporting for sites to check for?I got the sense that your messages were sort of conveying “it’s not a big deal/something you really need” and while not everyone NEEDS a VPN, I just can’t accept that hiding yourself from your ISP is like, some sort of wasted effort. It’s not.
Those are all good points actually. Nice talk!Yea, good points, and I would also like to hear what someone that actually knows about this thinks, networking is not something I know a lot about. And a VPN is something I have been thinking about, hence my interest in this thread. One of the reasons I use linux IS for privacy/security reasons, I DO NOT trust windows as an os, but that is another thread...
I disagree and think a vpn can potentially be more damaging to your privacy. You are just now letting some other company see your activity and log it and use it in the same way your isp can. I think it would be impossible for any major isp to actually "check" dl's of all their users actively: it is an ocean of data, and how would they know if a particular dl is not paid for? I would assume they don't have the resources for something like that. Unless your isp gets contacted, I don't think they are doing checks on what you are downloading, unless you live in a country where the government mandates reporting for sites to check for?
Now as for some vpn provider? idk, they claim to delete logs (which is the only way this idea actually helps your privacy), but I am suspicious of those claims, and keep in mind you are most likely not paying them as much per month as your isp (they have less interest in keeping customers, from a financial standpoint) and you are now in a smaller pool of users: it is easier for them to see what everyone is doing. Also why I would absolutely not use a free vpn which is the topic of the thread.