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Message: [QUOTE="Tonberry, post: 40144, member: 124861"] Yeah, I realize I can't really put my definition into words, so I'll leave it because I can't really back my claim up in a non-abstract way. You are clearly way more passionate about the social aspect than I ever was, though, so I might just be looking at it from a more wide-eyed perspective and thus many of the issues you mention might just be going over my head, both here and in-game. I play on Argent Dawn EU, and I know that the Argent Dawn experience is unique, because it's a completely separated server, so the only players you see there are the actual players, and not some cross-realm specter you won't ever see again (aside from the occasional player who is grouping with an AD native), and discussion and Tradechat is much more organic and lively than on just about any other realm, so I might be seeing it differently too compared to the people I lamented in my initial post. It might be a sort of privileged point-of-view actually, but it's made the game enjoyable for me every since I transferred there in like 2010. Edit: And my examples are also special cases, like the Fresh servers, and the Zandalar restoration project. I think Hardcore still has plenty of what you claim is missing though, but that's also a gimmick mode and I'm not versed enough in that to have any definite claims, just my friend who loves it mainly [I]because[/I] people are forced to group together and tackle objectives together because it's simply to dangerous not to. :) [/QUOTE]

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