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Message: [QUOTE="Tonberry, post: 40057, member: 124861"] I'm not saying I disagree with your entire post, but I think we're looking at it from two pretty different perspectives. When I mean "social", I just don't mean "socializing". That's the biggest part of it but in general it's a more abstract facet that permeates throughout the entire game. I know that's a really vague statement in and of itself, but I'm not entirely sure how to explain it in more detail. Most people aren't roleplayers (I roleplayed in WoW back in the day but that was a social side thing only) and while you do bring up some valid points, I'm not sure I agree with the part that MMOs (at least WoW) are turning into single player games with opt-in multiplayer. If anything, I'd say it's the other way around, and systems like Mythic which requires you to manually form groups, and the overall success of WoW Classic proves that players still are up for engaging with each other in various meaningful ways. How meaningful they are depends on the player and their playstyle, though. People who use Raid Finder aren't the ones who search for these social aspects, and as such shouldn't be considered part of the "problem", which even justifies itself as Raid Finder always giving worse rewards than the modes that require you to establish connections with real people and raid. RP servers have always been a special case, because those are the ones who actively seek out a way to sort of "insert" themselves into the game in a socializing way. Then again, it's of course going to sting when it feels like those servers are becoming something else, but roleplaying, while a valid playstyle, is still a sort of tertiary gamemode where you don't actually need to "play" the game. I can't speak for the RP side of FF14 because I never took part in it, but Goldshire hasn't been anything but a place to goof off since at least 2009, where it even then was known as the Habbo Hotel of Azeroth. [automerge]1736972465[/automerge] My point was more that it's an official tool, rather than something fanmade, which feels like sort of a feverdreamish statement to make, since Nintendo is so known for taking down fan work. To then just go "Here, take this big toybox and make any Mario game you want!" is sort of impressive to me. The kids who use Mario Maker to create stuff are the biggest winners, because they have endless time and imagination, compared to tryhards like me who want to make a serious safe level and give up because it's not perfect my first try lol. We'll mostly see meme levels and goofy stuff online because that's the easiest stuff that nets views, but it's far from the only stuff available in the game. [/QUOTE]

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