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Message: [QUOTE="RageBurner, post: 28197, member: 5434"] Some excellent points here, [USER=26523]@Somnia[/USER] you put my thoughts better than even I myself did on my own response above. I know your exposition wasn't addressed to me specifically but I'd like to add that I don't see any problem with being iterative. Creativity being an unlimited wellspring our species can tap into is a bit too idealistic, perhaps. I'm not advocating sameness or boredom, but even within iterative designs excellence can be found. Sticking exclusively to original concepts would ultimately mean for example that Sonic is derivative and boring just because Mario was a platformer before it, and that would be patently false, even if taste is subjective and some people hate Sonic (I'm talking 2D here). Similarly, and partially addressing [USER=73]@Gorse[/USER] 's comment on my Advance Wars/Wargroove example, it's true that more savvy people can find ways to enjoy Advance Wars regardless of circumstances, but N's effort isn't necessarily excellent just by virtue of existing nor does it invalidate other games in the same space. I do believe that, yes, there is overlap between Wargroove fans and Advance Wars fans, and you could draw similar parallels between Shovel Knight/Mega Man and countless others. Are there overused themes/genre combinations in indie games? absolutely! for every Into the Breach (such a gem), there are half a dozen Slay the Spire likes, I won't deny that, but even among the indies that number among the heavily iterated types, there are fine standouts that shine above them (Griftlands and Monster Train for example). Card games tend to be a highly contentious topic in general, but again, there are some incredible indie standouts I can name: Cross Blitz and Wildfrost. Are they 100% original? no, some aspects are derivative, but we don't want to spend the rest of our lives playing Old Maid, do we? And, lastly as was said, the AAA industry is infinitely more guilty of derivatism and repetition. [/QUOTE]

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