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Message: [QUOTE="Tonberry, post: 268404, member: 124861"] Sorry in advance for the wall of text, it just sort of happened ::thank-you Idk if this was [USER=466]@moonbits[/USER] point, but I agree with the point of rushing stuff being anti-fun. I'm in the camp of "it shouldn't feel like that because it sucks in general", meaning that I think the game suffers because dungeons aren't meaningful content, and that it sort of fostered a mentality around certain content that people don't want to do it, they just want it done (and also to the stereotype that FFXIV players don't like playing the game lol). Wall-to-wall tactics aren't boring because they're fast, they're boring because it doesn't feel like you're playing the game, and many MMO players like doing dungeons because it's a cool experience. FFXIV only ever had "hard dungeons" as a design point in ARR, so it's somewhat a relic to be in that mindset. I think they'd benefit greatly from a Heroic or even Mythic like approach, and to not tie every single dungeon to story content. Fighting monsters for cool rewards shouldn't be braindead, it should be engaging and fun. I know they're actively trying to bridge the gap more than before, but it still feels like casual and hardcore PvE content is too divorced from each other (I've seen the term midcore tossed around but I don't really know what it means), though Dawntrail had some new and fun chaotic envounter designs in both dungeons and normal-tier trials/raids which was a fun toss-up compared to years and years of "remember to not stand here when attack happens". But I don't have any ideas for a solution or anything, I just know I don't like how it's presented to me currently. [/QUOTE]

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