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Message: [QUOTE="Somnia, post: 62108, member: 26523"] I say this as a massive Platinum fan but FFXVI's combat belongs to be mentioned in the same breath as many other greats. It might not have the mechanical complexities that drive the highest level of play in a game like DMC4 but for 99.99% of players that won't really matter and it'll go toe to toe with almost anything else they've played. The real boon to the game's combat is that it ties itself a bit too hard to fairly surface level skill trees and gear systems that take a while to get going. I still don't think the pacing is all that slow compared to more "pure" character action games but it is definitely worth noting that it does pace its mechanics out through a full playthrough. Like any character action game though, the real fun comes from NG+ where you can finally max your character out and put all of the tools together for an entire playthrough and really find that depth. I also think the story is fantastic but ik that's divisive. Also, I wouldn't say that Square Enix is at all ashamed of turn based games. They are constantly rereleasing their turn based games in the forms of remasters and even remakes like Dragon Quest 3 HD, Romancing SaGa 2: Revenge of the Seven and Live A Live among many others. Most of their mobile titles also play out as turn based games even though the mobile market has moved towards action in the last 5 or so years outside of legacy titles. Dragon Quest Monsters 3 was a turn based game that released last year and they also picked up the console release of Fantasian. Various Daylife, Triangle Strategy, Octopath Traveler 1 and 2, Bravely Default 2, The Diofield Chronicle, SaGa: Emerald Beyond, Dungeon Encounters. Hell, even stuff like the Voice of Cards trilogy could count here. People who act like Square Enix has abandoned tactical RPGs or turn based combat are just straight up lying to themselves. We have got to stop looking Final Fantasy - the franchise that has chased action more and more in almost every entry since ATB was introduced - and concluding that Square Enix on the whole just doesn't care. They clearly do and while people can argue the quality of any specific example, the consensus on most of these games is that they're "ok" at worst and genuinely great with the target audience at worst. Even within that list of recent releases there is a ton of variety in style so they aren't even making ultra derivative turn based games. We need to come up with some new complaints or at least articulate ourselves better. Square Enix clearly isn't ashamed of turn based combat, the people in charge of Final Fantasy just clearly don't want it to be a turn based IP anymore. [/QUOTE]

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