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Message: [QUOTE="lordofthekevins, post: 286135, member: 130426"] [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98048[/ATTACH] Luna gets the best hitrates of her entire life [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98051[/ATTACH] Womp has enough numbers to just one shot this sage [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98052[/ATTACH] Honestly we can just run directly to the boss. all the enemies are trapped behind impassable trees so we can ignore them. none of the loot is any good [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98053[/ATTACH] Right justified yousef crit, uncommon [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98054[/ATTACH] Kamui does damage to an enemy with a rend heaven crit he had zero displayed against [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98055[/ATTACH] we are literally at the boss already. Olev can't quite get the kill so lets make this simple [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98056[/ATTACH] I cast spell of bones become hollow [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98057[/ATTACH] There we go [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98058[/ATTACH] We are, in fact, stronger than we were in chapter 7 [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98059[/ATTACH] Yousef seize point [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98060[/ATTACH] in the aftermath, kamui drops a hot semicolon. how well read! [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98061[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" width="241px" size="914x1280"]98062[/ATTACH] anyway thats enough of that [automerge]1754673523[/automerge] CHAPTER 23: WHAT WAS I TALKING ABOUT AGAIN? [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98213[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98214[/ATTACH] All alone, at that [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98215[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" width="52px" size="209x205"]98220[/ATTACH] i dont know who that is [ATTACH type="full" width="53px" size="105x103"]98222[/ATTACH] bisexual woman [ATTACH width="54px"]98220[/ATTACH] ah I get it [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98216[/ATTACH] this phrasing is so funny not even kamui gaf about the vallite threat [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98217[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" width="43px" size="498x498"]98223[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98218[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" width="215px" size="498x437"]98224[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98225[/ATTACH] well, this level has a lot of floating platforms that move. thats cool and all, some elevator action. have you ever played elevator action? its a neat little arcade game. you ever played elevator action returns? it has a really cool mid 90's artstyle [MEDIA=youtube]y0wDXesSmM0[/MEDIA] [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98226[/ATTACH] but anyway, our whole team is just kind of moving forward hitting things I feel like this kind of move forward and attack gameplay works best when the combat mechanics are more granular, something like Devil Survivor Honestly, Devil Survivor is a really interesting game. I really like its aesthetic the art style I think is really good, the same artist did a whole bunch of work on Digimon, but really the thing that sells it to me is the gameplay mechanics, where it's a very slow paced somewhat methodical kind of battle system with a big emphasis on unit management. [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98228[/ATTACH] Theres a big focus on creating specialized teams of units to move around and take out high value targets. a whole bunch of work doing the Fusion system to get the right abilities that you want on each guy that kind of thing. The plot is also really compelling too, the whole angle is that people are locked down in tokyo during a demon invasion and the more low to the ground MegaTen story keeps things engaging [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98229[/ATTACH] it also doesnt hurt that the soundtrack kinda whips [MEDIA=youtube]phgSTsVJEfU, list: RDphgSTsVJEfU[/MEDIA] [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98230[/ATTACH] I feel like a lot of megaten games have an issue where their Route Splits are just kinda... dull. Like strange journey and SMT4 really suffer from this in my eyes. The order route is pretty much just God destroying all free will forever and chaos route is just demons killing all human beings forever. devil survivor gets around this by keeping the alignments focused on human party members more than like, the actual God and Satan. [automerge]1754674868[/automerge] [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98235[/ATTACH] personally, if you ask me, DeSuv has my personal favorite chaos route. it's very easy for the games to feel like the neutral route is the only ending that concludes the story in a way that at all aligns with the tone of the story up to the route split, but even then tends to end up being the least interesting. "All demons and magic go away forever" is rarely an interesting way to end a story about how demons and magic effect people [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98236[/ATTACH] SMT5, a game i'm not exctly fond of, does something I like though. the neutral ending has an Even Neutraller ending you have to fight an extra boss to get to, but I took the law ending in that game and it was okay I guess. better than the chaos ending at least which is basically just "everything is fucked forever". TBH Abdiel and Tsukiyomi were more compelling alignment reps than the actual human characters. But overall the alignment endings, to me at least, are far more interesting than the neutral one overall because I like the idea that how things turn out is a bit tragic. the conflict is what makes it [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98237[/ATTACH] Somewhat related to which, I can't help but feel like the plot of Rev is just, so,..... insipid, in a way that BR and CQ aren't. Like don't get me wrong BR is really boring and has no forward momentum and CQ is maybe the most arbitrary thing ever written but rev is a complete nothing burger [automerge]1754675418[/automerge] [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98239[/ATTACH] We started in a neat place: corrin is kind of arbitrarily an outlaw and wanderer with a small crew. that's cool, it gives us a very different start from where we were before- the openings of the 2 main routes give us a dedicated team we're on, some friends in high places, and while CQ puts us on more of a back foot with a crew of allies who show up on the down low, BR gives us a whole backing of an army starting out. The gameplay supports the tone... but like, this doesn't make for compelling gameplay when your starting team is small and grows slowly, with a bunch of units backloaded as you get all the Royals and their individual goons [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98240[/ATTACH] The fact that your earlygame team is just Birthright + Gunter makes it far less interesting too. The nohrian party members all show up so late and are all so dogshit. they all have precisely the same stats basically or less on the level timescale, and also theyre all so underleveled? I swear to god its like nintendo wanted them to rush this entire route out as shitty DLC. i wouldn't at all be suprised if making 3 whole campaigns was too much time and effort for them to make on a 3ds budget and they really just couldn't refine any of the crappy rev maps or the nonexistant plot [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98242[/ATTACH] It really does feel like Rev is just kind of the lowest common denominator """Golden Route"""" where there's zero meaningful conflict at all so its by definition the ending that makes the most people happy. [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98243[/ATTACH] I remember back when people were bitching about how you had to pay for the DLC to get the "good" ending... which is dumb. the other story routes arent lesser because they include conflict or are unsatisfactory in nature, they have Conflict between Characters in them! something rev doesnt have. If your definition of a good ending is one where every party member in the entire game is bouncing on corrins dick for how cool and awesome and virtuous he is youre ngmi. [automerge]1754675722[/automerge] [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98245[/ATTACH] it ends up being that rev's entire plot is just a series of weak forced moments where all the main characters of br and cq have to yeild to how smart and correct corrin is for his wimpy centrist takes and then all join his ever growing posse. But like, it didn't have to be like this? I think that fates' overall tone is less Hard Worldbuilding and Countries and shit and a lot more like, fairytale fantasy in nature. its very Storylike in how it conducts itself, with big, expressive characters who drop more complicated backstories for the sake of simplicity. This isn't a bad thing, but it ends up making you ask: what, precisely is fates About? [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98246[/ATTACH] I think the simplest idea is conflict between family. What I'm pretty sure they were going for in Rev is the idea that Corrin can transcent conflict to unite people by virtue of his family, not nescessarily inherently just because he belongs to 2 families, [B]but because of the kind of person he is.[/B] [automerge]1754677275[/automerge] [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98252[/ATTACH] but then like, the entire existance of the vallites just makes everything so literal. the reason corrin recruits everyone isn't because of the content of his character or the bonds hes' made along the way, its because azura has arbitrarily decided to tell him the exitance of the games actual final boss. it undercuts everything. [ATTACH type="full" size="1440x480"]98253[/ATTACH] and then like what do they do once the entire gang is all together at last? they worry about scarlet who doesnt matter, or anthony who doesnt matter, or this traitor plotline that doesnt matter, or ghost parents who get absolutely no juice to work with, instead of actually having them be together in the main storyline its all shoved into [bad] support conversations. sigh. anyway that level was boring as sin. I think arete died. [/QUOTE]

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