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Message: [QUOTE="miguk, post: 87486, member: 1510"] It's a pretty common problem, unfortunately. A lot of fan bases in general eventually amass a subsection of them that really do not get the work at all. One notable subsection tends to be made up of young men of low intelligence and high machismo who are looking for a justification for behaving badly. Thus, when they see these "cool" characters acting the way they want to act while being portrayed the way they want to be portrayed via Hollywood magic, they latch on to them as a representation of their identity and ignore anything that makes them look bad, including the whole subtext and ending. (This isn't exclusive to films, though; [I]Rick & Morty[/I] and even Alan Moore's [I]Watchmen[/I] have had these kinds of fans.) (And for the record, in case anyone gets the wrong idea, this is not "men bad", but "violent macho idiot bad.") The funny thing is that these works are often made by people who are deliberately trying argue against that very type of behavior due to the negative effect it can have on themselves based on their own identities. [I]Falling Down[/I] was directed by Joel Schumacher, who was already openly gay at the time. [I]American Psycho[/I] and [I]Fight Club[/I] were both written by gay authors (both came out of the closet publicly years later, but were open in their personal lives). Alan Moore is an anarchist who is practically anti-traditional in his views. And yet, the weirder members of the fanbase just ignore the fact that these authors don't have any reason to embrace an overly traditional machoistic worldview, and have made it clear they don't to anyone who critically thinks about their works. [/QUOTE]

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