Does Disney and Marvel become even worse?

Forgot to add that, as far as "new" Marvel stuff goes, I REALLY liked that Agatha show.
Legitimately one of my favorite MCU things.
 
Looks at the history of both companies....Uh not even close, in fact they haven't their rock bottom/bankrupt level....yes both companies did hit those points in history.
 
Regarding Marvel, fans usually would first and foremost read the comics as movie adaptations were rare. Whether nowadays they can watch movies without even touching the comics.
 
Disney and Marvel in general are trying to push some kind of agenda to their content instead of focusing on telling great stories. People only wanted to be entertained and consume such contents as a short relief from the stress of the real world. But now with what Disney is pushing audiences tends to stay away for they don’t want any sugar coated agenda pushed at them disguised as an entertainment media.
Word. Been Marvel fan since early in my life, like before most of yall here were even a twinkle in your pappy's eye. How'd I wished people I knew could understand the rich characters back then. Considering that super hero fare back then, was the Lou Ferrigno Hulk show was a high point, and mostly cape stuff was ridiculed. But I'd watch. I'd watch otherwise horrible things,(due to the acting, poor special effects, shitty adaption,) just happy to see characters brought to the screen.

When the MCU started, I was like totally in awe, the special effects, doing like the old universal monster movies with all one universe stories. Movie studio throwing budget, and getting normies to like the characters no less. So with that said, you can get how its fall rubs me the wrong way.
"You don't make super hero media, it's simply; bad product."
 
I feel like Disney and Marvel become even worse worse these days. Do you guys and girls believe Marvel in Disney become even worse? I want to hear your opinions.
Disney started chasing trends and listened to "woke" ideologues (i know woke is kind of a political topic, but it is important for this as it is directly linked to disney's downfall) and started to cater towards this crowd, which most of the movie going audience were either indifferent to, or outright hated, especially by men.

To explain what i mean i need to explain what both men and women, as well as what gay people really want, not what you hear ideologues claim, what they really want.
Now do keep in mind i have not watched modern disney so alot of this is second hand, but i do know what people want in their movies and shows

For men it's simple, depending on the genre we like action stars to be hyper-masculine (not necessarily in appearance, but definitely in actions, though flawed masculinity is also allowed depending on the genre of action), protecting something whether it be a kid, a ideal or, the princess trope, examples are the john wick from the john wick movies, bruce wayne from batman 1989 and though it might not seem it, peter parker from the toby mcguire spiderman movies.
For more dramatic roles we prefer the men to be everyman's usually, a man who's 100% masculine but is also more down to earth, comedic men are the exception to this, they can essentially be anything but are more commonly dweebs, examples of this is aladdin from aladdin, gomez addams from the insanely excellent addams family movies and for a comedic example, both winthorpe and valentine from trading places.
How disney failed here is it intentionally de-masculated males constantly and made them hyper feminized in some cases, the mandalorian is a case of them having a good thing and screwing it up in later seasons.

Women in truth want 2 types of characters in more action oriented movies, the damsel in distress (yes, women do tend to like this trope, even if they claim they don't) or the ripley from aliens kind of female action character, strong but still feminine and capable of mistakes, examples are ripley from aliens, sarah connor from the terminator 1 and 2 (1 is a example of damsel, 2 is a example of female action star) and holly mclaine from die hard.
In romance and non action women tend to prefer, at least from disney, the disney princess archetype, though some like the mean girl asthetic, this is not big enough to be classified beyond a niche, generally speaking they prefer the damsel in distress or the chased maiden archetypes in these stories, though exceptions do exist like the um, hyper misogynist bad boy male lead trope (i'm not a woman so i can't claim to understand everything they like), examples include jasmine from aladdin, bella from twilight and um, the woman from 50 shades of grey (again don't ask me why alot of women like this).
Disney failed here in that the princess trope is mostly gone as they more or less destroyed the damsel archetype in their stories and in their place made women overly masculine, as well as mary sue's (looking at you rey from star wars).

The gay side had only one goal, to not be made that important, specifically that gay people are normal, like everyone else, disney failed here as they decided to hyper-fixate on sexuality in alot of their stuff, i won't give examples as the entire point of it is to not be a big deal.


Apparently disney is in deep trouble and they know it, especially with men who have turned their backs on them, they are trying to figure out how to win them back but i have my doubts they can, men tend to be far less likely to forgive than women on things like this.
 

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