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Message: [QUOTE="Ezri_Muldoon, post: 353144, member: 29375"] The old DCAU puts every marvel project to shame. For context: Batman the Animated series, Superman the Animated series, The new Batman Adventures, Justice League, Static Shock, Justice League Unlimited, Batman Beyond & the Zeta Project all exist as one (mostly) cohesive chronological timeline. 1993-2006 The Arrow verse from 2012-2022 was equally impressive. Despite a decline in quality in both writing & VFX as the decade progressed [B]It pulled off Crisis on Infinite Earths[/B], to the point past DC shows (Smallville being the absolute stand out inclusion) and even Lucifer turned up to pay a role in the plot. The director, Jesse Warn even used his own private funding to finish the damn thing. Something he sadly laments in interviews as Warner/DC didn't even the acknowledge the event as anything noteworthy. It is and will most likely will continue to the most ambitious crossover in TV/Film history. Then the Arrow verse was soft retconned away with Superman & Lois (2020-2024) and killed outright when James Gunn took over. Shortly after the wonderful year of 2023 when DC released four films with no marketing & cancelled a fifth. Regardless of what you think of each works qualities, applying scorched earth to (at least) six creative projects is a d!ck move. DC's films are hit and miss. But they have always allowed for more creative freedom and as such some are way more ambitious (for better and worse) than what Marvel produced. Ang Lee being fresh off Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon the exception... And that didn't go down well (Hulk 2003) The run of Animated DC films between 2013 - 2024 are also excellent. The DCAMU & Tomorrow verse were again, one (mostly) cohesive chorological timeline ending with Crisis on Infinite Earths. But way less ambitious in scope than the arrow verse take. -- Pre-MCU Marvel rocked. Blade 1 & 2, X-men 1 & 2, Spiderman 1 & 2, Hey I'm sensing a pattern. The MCU in retrospect should have ended at Endgame. But I can't deny for that decade I and my ex-wife never missed an instalment. And Marvel's TV outings... Do you have fond memories of that perfect summer you experienced as a child? The one you want to repeat but you know that the lake you visited that summer has changed and you can never re-capture that moment? That's a Marvel TV production. Even its strongest works (X-Men 1992) has been dredged up from the depths of hell to have a additional season bolted onto it 28 years post mortem. They're going to do the same with the Punisher (2017) soon. Marvel won't let a good thing simply exist. It's a constant stream of diminishing returns. Investment is mute. They'll Inevitably resurrect what you loved with a different creative team and it won't be the same. Nostalgia bait is safer than making something new or dare I suggest something ambitious. -- Overall I prefer DC, Not only does it actually faithfully adapt comic book storylines, something the MCU has never really done, it's approach of throwing sh!t at a wall and seeing what sticks has resulted in some insane, critically acclaimed & audience beloved works. Marvels territory is safe popcorn flics, if you want something more ambitiously it's DC. I'll gladly take the 9 bad DC films we get for the 1 brilliant film every decade. Than the 40+ mediocre marvel films released within the same timeframe. Superman 1978, Batman 1989 & The Dark Knight 2008 all raised the bar for Comic book representation in mainstream media. [/QUOTE]

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