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Message: [QUOTE="Sumea, post: 276313, member: 569"] That is dumb and usually not part of it. This makes; Every COD an MMO, and then they become not-MMO's when new COD comes out. Apex legends is an MMO. PSO2 at one point is a MMO and not anymoe. TF2 is a MMO. Overwatch a MMO and then not a MMO and then a MMO again and then not a MMO. Makes sense? Oh also you said only a playerbase so Undertale is also a MMO. That game for sure has a huge playerbase even today. I guess Deltarune is the new hot MMO from Toby Fox tho. To me "The MMO tests" are: Can you, in your server, call up 100 people to come into one random place on the world map and meet them all in there? Of if the game is dead, would that been the possibility in it's prime. Not just one specific place where 100 of your homies can hang out in but open the map, order an uber and go there. Is there a full on economy being done because the massive playerbase in your server alone is big enough to create an economy? Some non-MMO's do this too, like Diablo 3 or PSO2, even PSO1 has an economy but with previous that usually is part of the package. Are you interacting with an open world you can meet and help random people in. See, the massively is also usually a description of the world as much as the amount of players it can host. Does the game offer possibility for raids? Those are charasteristics of a MMO. S4 league is just a third person shooter. Just because it has it's own account and microtransaction store does not make it an MMO. Misunderstanding of MMO term is a type that irks me because it really is everything's a MMO type of deal but then nothing is. I for one, love Warframe. Massive amount of people play warframe. I can even go to specific hang out spots and meet dozens of people in those specific rooms in the game. But I can play the game in very rigid mission structures, with maximum of three other players since it is netcoded like Left 4 Dead on drugs. Now. the most grayest thing one could throw into the "does it MMO?" pile is battle royale games. They could be MMO, but they ain't RPG for sure. People forget MMO is usually shorthand for MMORPG because there is a little bit too many letters to be writing there and back when the word was coined, the only type of MMO was the RPG. So no, not everything with massive playerbase is an MMO. To me, simple test is open world and ability to have 50-200 people in one spot, anywhere on that world. WoW, FF XI, FF XIV, Tera rest your soul, and so on. The experience of walking in a world, meeting people where you are going in that world and so on is crucial part of an actual MMO. Then again, modern MMO's have streamlined that out of the equation so I guess Quake's an MMO now. [/QUOTE]

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