Can amateurs beat games?

[HTBandicoot]

As an amateur, I wonder if it is possible for me to beat games?

I used to have the mindset where I would play a game until I hit a wall and then that was my limit. I would think that I just wasn't skilled enough to make it further.

However, in just starting to play progression type games again, I realize that it is possible for me to progress and get better, even when a mission seems impossible. For example, in GTA IV, I've felt like the majority of missions so far have been way over my head, but after many failures and tutorials, ive been able to beat all the ones that seemed impossible. Still, Im just passed 20%. I wonder if I will eventually face one that I can't get past and then I will end up quitting like I used to.

Would you say that most games are created for amateurs to be able to beat them, or only for the top most skilled gamers?

 

[Akiba]

It depends on the game. Simple as.

 

[Boularingos29]

In my mind there are no amateaur games, only casual gamers and hardcore ones, i find myself mostly in the first category, the fun part. But if a game intrigue me so much, i will play it to the bone. Generally games are made for fun, now it depends what the word ''fun'' means for a gamer. Practice makes perfect, so YES you can beat it if you want:)

 

[UnDubious]

Most games can be beaten by most people with enough perseverence. I've beaten many games that are considered very difficult, and I'm still not super high skilled. I'm just stubborn.

 

[MasterEn]

it takes time and practice to beat a video game, just like it does with other skills. the more effort that you put in, the better the success rate.
i haven't played a grand theft auto game, but it seems more like you're just meant to play and have fun for a little while and then go do something else. there are games where trying to 100% feels unrewarding, like breath of the wild/tears of the kingdom. don't 100% those games. they literally give you shit for do so. that's not a joke by the way, you get a literal piece of golden feces for collecting the korok seeds, which takes the longest to do in both games at 900 and 1,000 of them to collect.
just play and enjoy the story the first time that you go through a game. some games are just better that way, other games take the entire length of the game to give you everything that you need to even do basic stuff. you could be actually making the game harder by accident by doing everything as soon as it pops up.
if you want, we could recommend some quick and easy games to play to get you some experience and help you get up to the more fun and challenging ones.

 

[nobitakun]

The difference between an amateur and an experienced is the same as anything in life: time.

The amount of time depends on each person, and that's where the importance of becoming good takes part. Are you willing to spend / waste a determined amount of time into something just to become very good at it?

My opinion on this is it's not worth to invest time into something to become good if you don't get a permanent reward from it. There are games that focus on skill to be beaten, others focus on time. But the former needs an infinite amount of time to be always skilled, because if you don't keep training you will become bad. The latter is much more rewarding, because you only need to invest a limited amount of time, for instance level farming, and you will become good forever.

I always use this theory for playing videogames, so for the ones that need player skills I use the right cheats to paliate that skill needed and transform them into the ones that only need time. If being skilled would give me money in exchange, then I would make the effort to invest infinite amount of time, but I am already doing that by having a job :)

 

[supercuteyaoilover]

As an amateur, I wonder if it is possible for me to beat games?

I used to have the mindset where I would play a game until I hit a wall and then that was my limit. I would think that I just wasn't skilled enough to make it further.

However, in just starting to play progression type games again, I realize that it is possible for me to progress and get better, even when a mission seems impossible. For example, in GTA IV, I've felt like the majority of missions so far have been way over my head, but after many failures and tutorials, ive been able to beat all the ones that seemed impossible. Still, Im just passed 20%. I wonder if I will eventually face one that I can't get past and then I will end up quitting like I used to.

Would you say that most games are created for amateurs to be able to beat them, or only for the top most skilled gamers?

Im 13 and I never played dark souls before. But hey, I didn’t knew anything and beated it like if i did! I guess that it depends on the way or your skills of playing other games. :)

 

[Coon]

Of course it is possible you just need patience and of course you have to make an effort to play through it.

 

[beefbowl]

Would you say that most games are created for amateurs to be able to beat them

Before allü games are products to make money. They wouldn't make that much money if they only appealed to a small percentage of user base. Just play them until your enjoyment runs out.

 

[moonbits]

Nowadays yeah, there's plenty of accessibility options for more casual players to complete games. But back then, it was either get good or get the hell away from videogames. Tutorials? lmao read the manual.

 

[rugal]

i find that most modern games are more easy to beat and older games are harder
some old games can be hard as hell to beat

all games can be beaten its just a matter of time and effort

 

[HTBandicoot]

it takes time and practice to beat a video game, just like it does with other skills. the more effort that you put in, the better the success rate.
i haven't played a grand theft auto game, but it seems more like you're just meant to play and have fun for a little while and then go do something else. there are games where trying to 100% feels unrewarding, like breath of the wild/tears of the kingdom. don't 100% those games. they literally give you shit for do so. that's not a joke by the way, you get a literal piece of golden feces for collecting the korok seeds, which takes the longest to do in both games at 900 and 1,000 of them to collect.
just play and enjoy the story the first time that you go through a game. some games are just better that way, other games take the entire length of the game to give you everything that you need to even do basic stuff. you could be actually making the game harder by accident by doing everything as soon as it pops up.
if you want, we could recommend some quick and easy games to play to get you some experience and help you get up to the more fun and challenging ones.

Sure, if you'd like. Although, GTA IV and V were the last two games I actually bought. So I will probably be working on them for the foreseeable future .

 

[moonbits]

The Ballad of Gay Tony is considerably harder than the base game so be warned.

 

[qw90700]

Your believes are wrong from the start. I understand what you mean but "amateurs" are just people who doesn't earn money from what they do. It doesn't mean they have no skill for it. Just because someone is amazing at what they do doesn't mean they would care to make money from it. That's why especially art scene filled with "amateurs" with amazing skills and also professionals who are actually bad at what they do. Not everyone makes money by using their best skill in use, most people make money in the way they can for various reasons and they choose what they wanna do over what they have the skills for. For example I know a guy who is amazing guitarist but playing guitar is not even his hobby. So many hidden gems walking among you but what people does and what skill they have are not related at all.

That being said, you gotta see the whole topic as how everyone is. You born and you suck at walking and then you get good and then you start to run. I only focus what I wanna do, I don't care how high I have to jump. Just fly, baby. Believe in yourself and just do it until you do!!!

I won't say "practice makes perfect" because if you cannot learn you cannot get better. I won't say "dedicate your years on it" because time has nothing to do with it. All I'll say is whatever in life is the way they are because it's the way you choose to see so. I don't think like you, so when I fail in games all I care about is if the game is fun or not. I don't care if I have to be good at anything, but if it's fun for me I don't think in terms of possible or impossible, hard or easy, et cetera. All I focus on is what I wanna do and how fun it will be. I don't care about laws of physics, I don't care what people think, I don't care what I can do right now. I just do it, if I can't do it I learn how to do it. That's how one day I decided to fly and started to fly so I don't need to take a bus to go to work anymore lolol. From the POV I look down on society all I see is birds who believe they have no wings or their wings are useless, even "we shouldn't fly because it's wrong" mentality and "if I had fly it wouldn't be normal, people would make fun of me". I shake my head and I just fly away. Sometimes doing anything is actually so easy. Just take the first step and just do it!!!

 

[Leifang]

It depends on games, most arcade games can be beaten easily no matter how bad you are since on emulators coins are endless... (except few who force you to restart if you die, that's hard).

PC games that have quick saves can be also easy just keep a separate save at level starts in case you quicksave when falling into a pit or something.

Most jRPGs are also pretty easy, and designed to tell a story instead of testing player's skill, though they tend to be long and you might quit it not having patience or time instead.

 

[sothfr]

Some games are definitely designed to be unfair. But I think most are made so that even average players can enjoy them by offering different difficulty levels. Some even include a very easy option. Maybe start by aiming for those. I'm sure you can do it!

 

[thatguynamedxel]

Oh, for sure. Anyone can beat a game. It's all a matter of practice. It's like playing an instrument or riding a bicycle.

I've been getting my younger sister into the Kirby games, starting with the Game Boy ones, she's never played them before, and she made some pretty damn good progress at her first go at it.

Practice makes perfect, and we all gotta start somewhere.

 

[Roy U. OmOm]

As an amateur, I wonder if it is possible for me to beat games?

I used to have the mindset where I would play a game until I hit a wall and then that was my limit. I would think that I just wasn't skilled enough to make it further.

However, in just starting to play progression type games again, I realize that it is possible for me to progress and get better, even when a mission seems impossible. For example, in GTA IV, I've felt like the majority of missions so far have been way over my head, but after many failures and tutorials, ive been able to beat all the ones that seemed impossible. Still, Im just passed 20%. I wonder if I will eventually face one that I can't get past and then I will end up quitting like I used to.

Would you say that most games are created for amateurs to be able to beat them, or only for the top most skilled gamers?

It's not worth it.

Spoiler: Chronic reality of a asymmetric world

Technically anyone can play most games. However it just comes along with a course of the play. By slowly, over time, creating "infrastructre" inside your brain. It's full of instructions and directions on how t navigate trough game which oprtartes insade a vacum.

Expect, this "infrastructure" is obsolate, worthless for anything you do IRL. It just doesn't translate to real life at all. Yet it stays with you forever.
Personally if I could go back, to state prior which I could play any game and each game on a whim, then I would. Brute forcing yourself, the brain, into seemless interactioning with artificial reality behind the monitor, has no benefits in the long run.
I watch the games. I discuss games. I criticize the games. But I do not play them.



• The cluncky robotic stickman that bumps into every wall like an idiot at the "press of a button".
• And the beutiful world which doesn't represent anything behind it's appearance.

This is the "reality" of video games. The texture. The hitbox. A bipolar construct which your brain is forced to simulate simultaneously without a fail, in real time. Non-stop. It takes a grand toll on your mind. Even if you do not realize it at first.
By staring into the abyss of a monitor, you are slowly losing your grasp: the idea of how beautiful and interactive the real world around you used to be.

• "The light inside water's surfence was supposed to have a prismatic gloss, and be full of fish"
• "The liquids were supposed to have real shape now."
...Is what I've spoken to myself a decade ago.
It's been over 20 years since Dues Ex premiered. The ultimate immersive SIM. "The template for the games to come".
Yet the immersion inside virtual space has never been further from it's source, more so, then it is as of right now. The virtual world is just empty paper box. Painted pretty, but still empty. And it it will stay this way.
I yearned for games, to enhance reality, by which the body is constrained by.
But the opposite has materialized.
The games limit the mind, not the other way around.
Some people cope with it by giving up a valuble partition of a psyche, just to isolate it to playing video games, sometimes unconciously. But it's unwise idea.

Watch the game; take intrest in a game; buy a game; play a game.
But if it is too hard give it a rest.

If you wish to witness, the life of a person who commited it towards perpetually improving at the video games, then just watch a daily routine of League of Legends player. They are avliable to see, for free, at streaming services. In large quantity none the less.
All I can say is that it's quite "unsightly".

If you are charmed by video games without having to play them, then please, cherish that ability.
Because it is a virtue.
"Beating" games tends to be short lived satisfaction.

 

[Michael Frank]

Don't "beat" them, enjoy them, like listening a song you like, experience every moment at it's fullest, don't rush, have patience.

 

[Clippy]

If all else fails put your game on some physical media, be it a hard drive, an sd card or whatever and beat the snot out of that,

 

[Waffles's iconWaffles]

If I can beat games, literally anyone can.

 

[therabidfrog]

As an amateur, I wonder if it is possible for me to beat games?

I used to have the mindset where I would play a game until I hit a wall and then that was my limit. I would think that I just wasn't skilled enough to make it further.

However, in just starting to play progression type games again, I realize that it is possible for me to progress and get better, even when a mission seems impossible. For example, in GTA IV, I've felt like the majority of missions so far have been way over my head, but after many failures and tutorials, ive been able to beat all the ones that seemed impossible. Still, Im just passed 20%. I wonder if I will eventually face one that I can't get past and then I will end up quitting like I used to.

Would you say that most games are created for amateurs to be able to beat them, or only for the top most skilled gamers?

Unless you have some sort of disability then of course you can beat pretty much any game that isn't broken. It's just a matter of wanting to put the time and effort into it. The more games you play, the more you complete, the better you'll get. It's like learning to play an instrument or learning a second language.

My advice is, if a thing seems impossible, try thinking outside of the box a bit. I remember when GTA III came out I had a near impossible time beating this race. Not because I was bad at racing, but because the driving controls and physics could be insanely inconsistent. Eventually I got the idea to take a rocket launcher and blow up all the other cars before moving my own into the position that triggered the mission. Problem solved lol.

Don't get frustrated. Learn to enjoy failure (sometimes unexpected and hilarious things can happen when you fail) and keep at it. If you find yourself getting seriously frustrated put the game down for the rest of the day. You'll be fine.

 

[Stingy Perry Stingy Perry]

An amateur five year old me has beaten Contra for the Famicom. If anyone with a low skill set like mine could do that well neither could you. For me it’s not about being an amateur or a seasoned gamer it’s all about how you love playing those games.