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Message: [QUOTE="Parasite_Steve, post: 68999, member: 5378"] I mean yeah that goes without saying but I was specifically talking about what other innovative bands of the day like the beach boys or the kinks were doing that the Beatles still got credit for. As a producer myself I also feel like George Martin is like 70% of what made their work great so maybe count him as my favorite beatle. I probably would have liked Ringo back in the day and as a drummer myself I think his rep as a bad drummer is completely unearned, but everything I’ve seen of him and how he has presented himself since makes him come off like a pompous prick. I’m not trying to be a contrarian mind you, the Beatles were great but I’m having mixed feelings about the phenomenon and the narrative around them. There’s also this whole misogynistic anti-Yoko thing that’s tied into it which is a completely different can of worms… [/QUOTE]

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