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Message: [QUOTE="LeoTCK, post: 28614, member: 100349"] Someone said that Metroid Prime was like a eulogy to first person shooters. Speaking of that game, I had played it extensively with my partner. I couldn't help but notice some links to Unreal, even with the engine to the "warfare" branches of the engine. Also with the Nintendo DS game, that looked like it was running a version of the original Unreal engine, I noticed some similarities with the late 1996 leak including some graphical errors that were similar. In the end it looked like a hybrid version and I even saw traces of internal Unreal stuff like words like meshes and movers from the developement screenshots and some data-mining. What I think happened is that someone at Retro had access to the N64DD Unreal developement or that they even previously licensed the engine before being hired by Nintendo. And that it was all kept secret. I spoke to one of the developers and after some prying questions he went silent on the matter, I mean he even showed screenshots of their editor and it looked just like a modified UnrealED from around the time. One guy at assembler games even claimed it was a modified Unreal engine 2 even though iniitally I disputed that but that was before I even played it. If its not the engine then it at least took a lot from it. Also the developers of the N64 port were essentially the same ones as the cancelled hired guns sequel/remake...it was DMA/Psygnosis. I think Retro was somehow connected at some point. I mean honestly even the N64DD engine was often called its own engine because of the changes they had to make to it. And Nintendo DS was a lot like the N64.... so we got Metroid Prime Hunters to remind us what this N64DD Unreal could have been lol.... But even the story and game structure of Metroid Prime, if you'd have ever read the design document called the Unreal Bible from the game period around late 1996 to early 1997, one of the leaked documents (but with missing mainmap pictures) you would notice how similar it is to the premise of Metroid Prime itself. It revolved around finding artifacts and delivering them to skaarj altars in order to proceed to the next mainmap(hub) and also this would be required to powerup the mothership at the end too. Originally Unreal II was supposed to be a direct sequel where you'd end up on the Skaarj planet. (note also that the location of the skaarj ship is called the Demon Crater similar to the Impact Crater in Metroid Prime and also tarydium is kind of similar to phazon and all that) When they rebooted the game in 1997 the plans had changed. Though initially they still retained the idea of the artifacts but it was gonna play differently. It gained a detailed backstory but the structure of the game became much looser and up to individual designers to craft their own little worlds and stories. It got streamlined into the game that released, but the backstory was dropped and the prisoner characters got split into a character that you could yourself give identity thus the backstory was no longer set in stone. The novels retained most of the original backstory in its two main characters though, Zofia and Gerrick, who got captured and imprisoned together originally. In the game they are most close to the skins Kurgan and Gina and even those skins used to be different in fact the first female1 skin was never recovered as it was already made in early 1997 and only one screenshot exists of her head though she reminded a bit of the Drace skin. And before that it was just mainly the amazonian-like woman as the protagonist so Unreal actually started with a female protagonist in mind. [/QUOTE]

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