So I plan on writing a Dark Romance Novel

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I know it's a genre mostly dominated by women writers, so I will enjoy the challenge. That challenge is mostly overcoming alot of the cringe when I read some of these books, involving you know what. But women just seem to love that type of stuff. Fuck it, one to cross off the bucket list.
 
Women likes tons of sexual fucked up shit they separate as romance and it makes me escape from Earth lolol.

If you have an interesting story or a parody sense of humour ideas even I would write a dark romance novel but who and why anyone would read it other than something interesting and parody is the actual question.

Those who are interested in this BS loves to gain POV from another women so they can adjust their life, just day dream as the main woman character for "fun", but if the novel written by a man they can still be curious about "how fucked up men's mind can be" but they can be cringed for how a man trying to emulate how a woman is which is fundamental problem for writers. Not many writers can write realistic opposite sex characters which is one of the reason why, for example, Harry Potter books are cringy. The woman writer could never write realistic male characters. So your challenge is not being able to write a decent "dark romance novel", it is being able to write realistic woman character that won't make the reader stop reading even cursing at your aunt, you managing to write this woman character in the realistic woman POV to tell the story. If you cannot do that whole point of dark romance gets pointless.

There is also the indication of this: Any fiction targets women actually rather intentionally or not have unrealistic male characters. Again Harry Potter is an example. Instead of how men actually are these are fictional male sex that can only exist in a woman's fiction because it's how they believe men are and how they want men to be. This indicates your 2nd challenge is being able to write unrealistic male characters in the way women believe this is how men are and the men types they want. Unless you studied psychology by diving deep into neurology, biology and genetics it is really hard for you to write a women's fiction without being a woman but good luck on being able to come up with characters and situations a woman would wanna experience in the safety of a fiction lol. But I have one tip: The only thing in the novel has to be realistic is the women characters but they cannot be realistic if you follow stereotypes. You may follow MBTI for "safe bet" as tons of writers does to make characters seem realistic and to avoid stupid social stereotypes. Oh and another tip: Women likes to see personality types in fiction that is based on real-life personality types from Big 5, zodiac types, MBTI and even blood types because they tend to study such stuff. And then last thing about it is the "cringe" part. What women likes may be cringe for a man but without this cringe it cannot be "dark fantasy novel". ::winkfelix
 
Makes me think of Chuck Palahniuk's Beautiful You, a parody of 50 Shades of Grey. It was funny, dark and gross. I think that's the way to go. Highly recommend reading it for inspiration for your book. or just because it's an entertaining read.
 
BomGood luck, beautiful! If you wrote the book, send me a copy so I can see it.
 
Women likes tons of sexual fucked up shit they separate as romance and it makes me escape from Earth lolol.

If you have an interesting story or a parody sense of humour ideas even I would write a dark romance novel but who and why anyone would read it other than something interesting and parody is the actual question.

Those who are interested in this BS loves to gain POV from another women so they can adjust their life, just day dream as the main woman character for "fun", but if the novel written by a man they can still be curious about "how fucked up men's mind can be" but they can be cringed for how a man trying to emulate how a woman is which is fundamental problem for writers. Not many writers can write realistic opposite sex characters which is one of the reason why, for example, Harry Potter books are cringy. The woman writer could never write realistic male characters. So your challenge is not being able to write a decent "dark romance novel", it is being able to write realistic woman character that won't make the reader stop reading even cursing at your aunt, you managing to write this woman character in the realistic woman POV to tell the story. If you cannot do that whole point of dark romance gets pointless.

There is also the indication of this: Any fiction targets women actually rather intentionally or not have unrealistic male characters. Again Harry Potter is an example. Instead of how men actually are these are fictional male sex that can only exist in a woman's fiction because it's how they believe men are and how they want men to be. This indicates your 2nd challenge is being able to write unrealistic male characters in the way women believe this is how men are and the men types they want. Unless you studied psychology by diving deep into neurology, biology and genetics it is really hard for you to write a women's fiction without being a woman but good luck on being able to come up with characters and situations a woman would wanna experience in the safety of a fiction lol. But I have one tip: The only thing in the novel has to be realistic is the women characters but they cannot be realistic if you follow stereotypes. You may follow MBTI for "safe bet" as tons of writers does to make characters seem realistic and to avoid stupid social stereotypes. Oh and another tip: Women likes to see personality types in fiction that is based on real-life personality types from Big 5, zodiac types, MBTI and even blood types because they tend to study such stuff. And then last thing about it is the "cringe" part. What women likes may be cringe for a man but without this cringe it cannot be "dark fantasy novel". ::winkfelix
Which is why I'm going under an alias. Bucket O'Hare it is!
 
When I used to write smut, I noticed that most of my readers were women, I also noticed that certain tags of the noncon variety did far better in terms of readers and engagement.

The romance genre has become a parody, so, nothing to lose really. Can't be worse than My Immortal anyway.
 
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Write the dirtiest smut possible but change any reference to doing the deed with hand holding
 
I know it's a genre mostly dominated by women writers, so I will enjoy the challenge. That challenge is mostly overcoming alot of the cringe when I read some of these books, involving you know what. But women just seem to love that type of stuff. Fuck it, one to cross off the bucket list.

You gotta embrace the cringe within you. Feel it and use it in your favor!

Yeah, dark romance is just cringe wish fulfillment for women just like those harem anime are wish fulfillment for men. I think it just scratches a very specific itch we all have, but are too afraid/ashamed to admit.

Maybe do something more interesting and make the initally good-natured main character decends into a dark path as she gets involved with the male main character. Something like "I can fix him!" but she just gets more and more broken, not in as victim, but realizing she was just as broken as the male lead and was just suppressing that side due to social conventions, being a woman and all.

Just like horror movies or true crime, those kinds of book help us to experience otherwise traumatic events on a safe environment.
 
When Regular Corn becomes the more refined and cultured way to consume it compared to smut novels we know someone somewhere took the wrong turn.The milking farm smut 🐂 comes to mind 😰 I can't remember the right name but its probably better that way.
 
I feel like the cringe was already embraced, when OP says he already has the habit of reading them. Just be faithful to yourself and the novel is done.
Has been embraced*
Sorry for my terrible english :p
 
Makes me think of Chuck Palahniuk's Beautiful You, a parody of 50 Shades of Grey. It was funny, dark and gross. I think that's the way to go. Highly recommend reading it for inspiration for your book. or just because it's an entertaining read.
Not gonna lie...

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I had no idea this existed, it's now the top of my list of books I want to read.

If you want to write dark romance, embrace the weird. It's the weird stuff that does it for these women, weirder the better. Some of the most out there stuff ever is quite popular on book tok.

To paraphrase what I know of one book, "I watched bigfoot have his way with my boyfriend as I stared from the branches of the tree, utterly destroying my boyfriend, knowing it was going to be me who will be destroyed next!".

The weirder and wilder the better, but also an element of sadism is necessary otherwise it won't be dark, like "he does anything he wants to me, but only on Tuesdays".

I watched 50 shades of grey with my wife, we found it hilariously tame and odd a while back. It was an unintentional comedy blockbuster. I understand why they have appeal, it doesn't mean I don't laugh at what arouses these women. There's down bad and then there's book tok.
 
I have a story idea in mind for something like that, only the love is unrequited and the protagonist spends eternity suffering to help the girl he's in love with from behind the scenes throughout her whole life but unable to be with her romantically in person.
 
Just chill out, wishing you success with your project :)
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I have a story idea in mind for something like that, only the love is unrequited and the protagonist spends eternity suffering to help the girl he's in love with from behind the scenes throughout her whole life but unable to be with her romantically in person.
This sounds amazing tbh
 
I watched 50 shades of grey with my wife, we found it hilariously tame and odd a while back. It was an unintentional comedy blockbuster. I understand why they have appeal, it doesn't mean I don't laugh at what arouses these women. There's down bad and then there's book tok.
Tame??¿¿¿Tame???!!!! I watched 50 Shades of BS for its memes and ended up puking lol. And then we have Saltburn at home and it has the wildest women fantasy sexual shit I ever witnessed SMH when I thought the 3 women talking about covering some celebrity man's body in chocolate and licking it until the end in a random forum would be the wildest women fantasy I would ever witness!!! lolol
 
I know it's a genre mostly dominated by women writers, so I will enjoy the challenge. That challenge is mostly overcoming alot of the cringe when I read some of these books, involving you know what. But women just seem to love that type of stuff. Fuck it, one to cross off the bucket list.
As a amateur writer that is still trying to release a novel, I say GO FOR IT, MAN! :V
I think it can be a interesting idea, ngl!
 
Women likes tons of sexual fucked up shit they separate as romance and it makes me escape from Earth lolol.
As a girl myself, I really don't understand the hype dark romance gets. Most of these "books" are awfully written and basically the plot always revolves around a woman with Sctockolm syndrome ::apollo. Fun fact, in 2023 Algeria's most readed author was detroned by Sarah Rivens because of her "Captive" series. These are really badly written and problematic but people read them anyways. I'm in high school, and have multiple friends who read that kind of thing so I assume that the actual audience of dark romance must be pretty young. And I'm afraid that some people start to normalize some of the crazy stuff written in here because of that. So yeah, that's my opinion on dark romance, and I hope that you'll write something original, that won't be too cringe OP. Good luck ::bigboss
 
Just chill out, wishing you success with your project :)
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This sounds amazing tbh
It's K-Drama lol
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I already got the main setting down, and it's quite unique because it's not something usually used in Western settings, if ever.
 
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As a girl myself, I really don't understand the hype dark romance gets. Most of these "books" are awfully written and basically the plot always revolves around a woman with Sctockolm syndrome ::apollo. Fun fact, in 2023 Algeria's most readed author was detroned by Sarah Rivens because of her "Captive" series. These are really badly written and problematic but people read them anyways. I'm in high school, and have multiple friends who read that kind of thing so I assume that the actual audience of dark romance must be pretty young. And I'm afraid that some people start to normalize some of the crazy stuff written in here because of that. So yeah, that's my opinion on dark romance, and I hope that you'll write something original, that won't be too cringe OP. Good luck ::bigboss
That's one thing I'm glad about significant reasons for human behaviour is not because of the sex people have, that's why enjoying dark romance novels can be a woman thing or not yet it's normal that if a woman has no interest in such stuff too. However sometimes X is popular among certain group of people just because it is how a group assosiate themselves with, and it can be country-specific culture too. For example in my country people give importance to reading books and women tend to read crime-thriller instead. I can't imagine people here reading any erotic and dark fantasy novels here. But if in a country reading such books is "how women are in general" then it decides the way of living a group of people have like how in some countries being a man associated with having immense interest in soccer and such lol.

You are right on how people normalize what wasn't normal before and it heavily impacts the entertainment industry further. We may blame social media, especially popularity of X (formerly "Twitter") because basically insane people share their insanity with people around the world and this gives wrong impression to society and companies "what is normal" when most sane people don't wanna lose their sanity using social media. And then they release weird movies like 50 Shades of Grey, Twilight and Saltburn as if these are "sane" and "acceptable" movies when they are not. Since internet became part of daily life and then how world population increased a lot minorities became significant majorities, and that's why their insanity of them became part of "what is normal" anymore. Too much different type of people anymore but the world tries to reduce the target audience to one type of people by trying to interest them with primitive urges they have by using whatever is sexual, action-focused, generic and whatnot popular stuff.

In this context, their target audience may be young people who wanna explore such fantasies to get to know how people can be and get to know the world to think what they may experience in this life, and old people who are bored of life so they look for "new adventures". After all fiction is not just "enjoying the story" but also has a significant element of "learning" and "exploring" that attracts people. However enjoying such genre stuff is regardless of age, culture and gender, it's more about a personality trait regarding what a person sexually prefers, what kind of people they are interested in and what they wanna wish to experience but they don't wanna experience in real life due to risks it has. That's why part of usage of fiction is fantasy to have fun with. But yet which kind of genes people have within a country basically determines how a culture is and therefore what can be popular in these countries, and popularity of internet just enables people to feel free to be themselves because "there are tons of people like me" and therefore it makes what was wrong became right and normal anymore. And then most people wanna be "normal" and therefore follows whatever is popular to be normal despite how crazy, wrong and insane it may be. "If every sheep follows that leader sheep then I must follow too" without caring about if they are walking to a cliff or not and that's basically how society is lolol.
 
The funny thing is the romance genre, while definitely associated more with women and their early literary pioneers like Jane Austen and the Brontë sisters, it actually originated with male writers like Samuel Richardson (Whose novel "Pamela" could also be seen as the first dark romance novel, depending on how you look at it). Hell, if you want to go even further back, 20 pieces of writing from some of the ancient Greek (Male) writers have been discovered (5 complete pieces of text, the other 15 only partial remnants) all surrounding themes of love and romance. Seems like it's time to take the genre back! lol.

Jokes aside; I'd say you go for it regardless. If it's something you're really interested in and passionate about, you owe it to yourself to go through with it. As others have pointed out; it is very difficult for both genders to write authentic portrayals of the opposite sex, but to be honest I wouldn't say you should let that fact dissuade you, nor should you let any notion of "being cringe" dissuade you either. Just write what you want, from your heart and do it with passion.
 
The funny thing is the romance genre, while definitely associated more with women and their early literary pioneers like Jane Austen and the Brontë sisters, it actually originated with male writers like Samuel Richardson (Whose novel "Pamela" could also be seen as the first dark romance novel, depending on how you look at it). Hell, if you want to go even further back, 20 pieces of writing from some of the ancient Greek (Male) writers have been discovered (5 complete pieces of text, the other 15 only partial remnants) all surrounding themes of love and romance. Seems like it's time to take the genre back! lol.
And then men also wrote a lot about the love that wasn't unrequited and it's very popular among men who had such experiences. It's not manly to read about happy successful romance characters living!!! Manly men listens enka songs about "unrequited love" while they drive their decorated trucks while they drive everywhere to mountains, volcanos, swamps and deserts!!!!

♫ ♪♫ ♪♫ ♪♫ ♪♫ ♪♫ ♪♫ ♪♫ ♪♫ ♪♫ ♪
A man's heart can only be filled with one love
But if his heart is not filled with love
It will only be filled with sorrow
To make my past sleep I drove toward the western Moon
But I cannot reach it just like my dreams
All I have are my wishes and my decorated truck
That is why I named my truck your name "Hoshika" (Star Flower)
I decorated my beloved truck and poured my love on it that I cannot express to you
Since I left you I'm on the road: mountains, deserts, swamps, volcanoes
None of them was as difficult as being by your side
Yet I know, there is nothing harder than your rejection
That is the path of a man.
♫ ♪♫ ♪♫ ♪♫ ♪♫ ♪♫ ♪♫ ♪♫ ♪♫ ♪♫ ♪

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Enka over 9000!!! *He drifts with his heavy AF truck fully loaded!!!*

lolol
 
When I used to write smut, I noticed that most of my readers were women, I also noticed that certain tags of the noncon variety did far better in terms of readers and engagement.

The romance genre has become a parody, so, nothing to lose really. Can't be worse than My Immortal anyway.

I've seen some on Amazon where the love interest is a dinosaur. It makes me wonder if people are actually reading for the shock value of how wild it can be.
 

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