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I’m absolutely psyched for this film. I’m glad they’re going balls to the wall and embracing all of the comic book mythology. Seeing Krypto was awesome. My only slight concern is how many characters we saw and I hope they don’t take away too much time from Clark. He was massively underdeveloped in the previous cinematic iteration in my opinion. Cavill looked fantastic but I feel like we never really got to know him. He was presented as more of a phenomenon than a person. I’m incredibly eager to see what Corenswet brings to the table as Superman.
 
I keep seeing the memes of that guy throwing cans, I think it's gonna be good. Especially when he wants to make an ultimate good guy
 
I keep seeing the memes of that guy throwing cans, I think it's gonna be good. Especially when he wants to make an ultimate good guy
That little snippet actually stood out to me because the same thing happened to Cavill’s Superman in MoS when he confronts those truckers in the bar scene.
 
I’m absolutely psyched for this film. I’m glad they’re going balls to the wall and embracing all of the comic book mythology. Seeing Krypto was awesome. My only slight concern is how many characters we saw and I hope they don’t take away too much time from Clark. He was massively underdeveloped in the previous cinematic iteration in my opinion. Cavill looked fantastic but I feel like we never really got to know him. He was presented as more of a phenomenon than a person. I’m incredibly eager to see what Corenswet brings to the table as Superman.
HELL YEAH!!! I wasn't a big fan of Snyder's take on Superman, though Cavil was a good looking Superman. I absolutely love that the movie is embracing the comics too. It just makes me so happy to see comic book movies feel like the comics have come to life. With how the world has been/is going, a great Superman movie with a well written and human Superman that can give us hope would be fantastic to see. I really loved GotG and Peacemaker, so I really hope Gunn can live up to some of our expectations, which are honestly pretty high
 
Definitely optimistic! The trailer has a ton of random looking elements, but Mr. Terrific, Guy Gardner's terrible haircut, and a kaiju fight? Now I'm interested.
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Thank god they aren't going with Guy Gardner's Warrior phase...

Not because of those things on their own, but it shows that this is an actual fantasy world from the jump. The Earth has giant monsters sometimes, and multiple Green Lanterns alongside slightly more grounded crime-fighters like Terrific. Better yet, it's not an origin story, and doesn't exist in the blank slate "assumed default" that a lot of comic books have used over the years.

Most animated movies already leverage the setting, but live-action fare tends to be more timid. James Gunn's DC looks to be the world of the comics, where Frankenstein really happened, a meteorite made one of the first cavemen immortal, and time-travelers drop in to hang out with Superman.

On the other hand, consider Marvel. Tony Stark lived in our world and slowly built the amazing technology in front of us that sets his premise apart. New fantastical characters were layered on steadily, perhaps to not overwhelm the audience. Thor and Cap didn't "exist" until their movies came out, at most they were Easter eggs and references.

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Tony Stark, seen here in Afghanistan selling smart munitions to the U.S. Army during the post-invasion occupation, the first and last current event referenced in a Marvel movie. I'm not saying the Hulk needs to be in Ukraine in the next movie, just that "our world" was the original setting. All of human history progressed relatively free of the supernatural.

Just to be clear, I'm not saying Superman could be good because there's more references, or lore. Kevin Smith once said of Batman v. Superman (and I'm paraphrasing here)," There's a fucking parademon on screen, man. For some people, that's enough."

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Instead, it's fun because the shared worlds of superhero comics allows for all kinds of opportunities. For instance, Dr. Strange can hire Taskmaster, the Black Cat, and Moon Knight to play a Fighter, Thief, and Priest in a cursed D&D knockoff that's killing several children, Jumanji-style, lest an adventuring party sally forth and finishes the game. Yes, you could set this up with the existing supporting characters in the book, but why force them into roles that other people living in Marvel's New York can already fill? Half of Manhattan owes Strange a favor for lifting a curse on their favorite pet or something, why wouldn't he just break out his phone?

(Strange rolled a Mage, obviously.)


This isn't the "superior" way to tell stories or anything, but I'm a little bored of all these cinematic universes that play it safe. Every new character in a Marvel movie feels like their being vetted for a future project, like how all of the younger folks have been earmarked for a doomed Young Avengers movie that's never going to be made. Sometimes, people with powers should just show up, play their part, and leave without getting an origin story and a toy deal. I think the general viewing audience can handle it.

(Batman v. Superman *sorta* jumped in like that, but showed us a Comic-Con sizzle reel on Batman's computer instead of actually telling a story. Also Wonder Woman showed up, but for a climax that she was completely uninvolved with. I liked the initiative but the execution was brainless.)


Sorry if this is scatter-brained, I was just gonna post "Yes!" and then all this shit tumbled out.
 
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Definitely optimistic! The trailer has a ton of random looking elements, but Mr. Terrific, Guy Gardner's terrible haircut, and a kaiju fight? Now I'm interested.
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Thank god they aren't going with Guy Gardner's Warrior phase...

Not because of those things on their own, but it shows that this is an actual fantasy world from the jump. The Earth has giant monsters sometimes, and multiple Green Lanterns alongside slightly more grounded crime-fighters like Terrific. Better yet, it's not an origin story, and doesn't exist in the blank slate "assumed default" that a lot of comic books have used over the years.

Most animated movies already leverage the setting, but live-action fare tends to be more timid. James Gunn's DC looks to be the world of the comics, where Frankenstein really happened, a meteorite made one of the first cavemen immortal, and time-travelers drop in to hang out with Superman.

On the other hand, consider Marvel. Tony Stark lived in our world and slowly built the amazing technology in front of us that sets his premise apart. New fantastical characters were layered on slowly, possibly to not overwhelm the audience. Thor and Cap didn't "exist" until their movies came out, at most they were Easter eggs and references.

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Tony Stark, seen here in Afghanistan selling smart munitions to the U.S. Army during the post-invasion occupation, the first and last current event referenced in a Marvel movie. I'm not saying the Hulk needs to be in Ukraine in the next movie, just that "our world" was the original setting. All of human history progressed relatively free of the supernatural.

Just to be clear, I'm not saying Superman could be good because there's more references, or lore. Kevin Smith once said of Batman v. Superman (and I'm paraphrasing here)," There's a fucking parademon on screen, man. For some people, that's enough."

View attachment 6481Instead, it's fun because the shared worlds of superhero comics allows for all kinds of opportunities. For instance, Dr. Strange can hire Taskmaster, the Black Cat, and Moon Knight to play a Fighter, Thief, and Priest in a cursed D&D knockoff that's killing several children, Jumanji-style, lest an adventuring party sally forth and finishes the game. Yes, you could set this up with the existing supporting characters in the book, but why force them into roles that other people living in Marvel's New York can already fill? Half of Manhattan owes Strange a favor for lifting a curse on their favorite pet or something, why wouldn't he just break out his phone?

(Strange rolled a Mage, obviously.)


This isn't the "superior" way to tell stories or anything, but I'm a little bored of all these cinematic universes that play it safe. Every new character in a Marvel movie feels like their being vetted for a future project, like how all of the younger folks have been earmarked for a doomed Young Avengers movie that's never going to be made. Sometimes, people with powers should just show up, play their part, and leave without getting an origin story and a toy deal. I think the general viewing audience can handle it.

(Batman v. Superman *sorta* jumped in like that, but showed us a Comic-Con sizzle reel on Batman's computer instead of actually telling a story. Also Wonder Woman showed up, but for a climax that she was completely uninvolved with. I liked the initiative but the execution was brainless.)


Sorry if this is scatter-brained, I was just gonna post "Yes!" and then all this shit tumbled out.
This would be an amazing article man
 
Thanks man, would you believe every time I go to write one, my mind goes blank? I like everything I write spontaneously, and I hate everything I write on purpose. That normal for anyone else?
It’s surprisingly more normal than you think. Don’t worry about it too much.
 
Thanks man, would you believe every time I go to write one, my mind goes blank? I like everything I write spontaneously, and I hate everything I write on purpose. That normal for anyone else?
Yeah don't worry about it man, at least you're not like me. I tend to think a lot but never tried anything, so it's pretty normal
 
Oddly enough I’m cautiously optimistic. I don’t worship at the altar of James Gunn (his troma stuff was sweet though) and Superman may be one of my least favorite superheroes, but from everything I’ve seen they seem to be making really smart choices with the source material so I’m not ruling out watching it in theaters.
 

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